Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

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I was initially disposed to dislike the idea of Franklin coaching our Vols. But sleeping on it, there's a good argument in his favor.

To use the analogy of another sport, auto racing, we need a grease monkey. We need a driver like the dude Christian Bale played in Ford v Ferrari, a guy who can jump into any ride, jalopy or super-tuned sportster, and figure her out, then get the absolute most she'll give.

We don't need the best driver in the world at the top end, the guy who has driven cars fine-tuned to perfection all his life. That guy wouldn't know the first thing about making a basket case of slapped-together parts go as fast as it can. Pruitt was like that (among other problems), never coached in a program that needed a lot of bondo and rust removal just to get going, he had no idea how to react, was flummoxed from the start. Too used to walking into programs already at or near the top.

Elliott would be the same kind of caution. Not saying Elliott wouldn't succeed for us, he absolutely might. And certainly not saying he has any of the other problems Pruitt had (temper, inflexibility, etc.). Just saying his success at Clemson may not translate into success where things need some serious work just to get out of pit row.

But Franklin, he's done that. He took Vandy (Vandy!) out of its perpetual miasma to a better place. Sure, no championships, but he got as much out of Vandy as you can get, I think. And he walked into a Penn State program still trying to recover from the Sandusky/Paterno era, and seems to (covid year aside) have it back near the top of the B10.

So yeah. He's growing on me as an option. Even as it seems possible we failed to secure his services. Heh. Timing.

But at least I think I understand now where Danny White's brain was _if_ he was going after Franklin. It makes more sense to me now.
 
Not promoting anyone but will say this.
I get our sanctions and a few people's pasts *should rule them out. But honestly, if you're going to preach integrity and immediately talk to JF, may as well have ALL names on the table.

And I no longer care about the approval of NCAA or the SEC. They've proven repeatedly that a select few get their nod to do whatever it takes and everyone else gets punished.
Their opinion means less than jack**** to me.

The one thing I’ve wished for is that the AA put everyone on an even playing field. It’ll never happen though
 
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I can’t understand how he’s not in the mix. I’ve wanted him since the BYU game.
IMHO it’s the whole “integrity” thing first ran by Plowman. Essentially if there is the “appearance of serious wrongdoing” at their program under their watch then they’re not in the running. That technically should nix Freeze, Franklin and Chadwell. It seems to have definitely nixed Freeze which is partially why Franklin being mentioned as a serious contender has rustled some of our jimmies.
 
Fulmer got canned. This means Fulmer doesn’t know anything.
I think Fulmer was planning on retiring this winter anyway. In a case of bad timing, the coaching staff got exposed cheating just as his time was approaching.

I think that's how UT leadership was able to find a top-quality new AD so astoundingly fast. They'd already been quietly looking for weeks, maybe even a few months.
 
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Here is where I am this morning....I can't think of a single reasonable candidate that I would rather have less than Sonny Dykes. Give me Jamey Chadwell. Give me Lance Leipold. Give me Josh Heupel. Give me Jeff Fisher (he could at least bring NFL experience and probably hire a decent staff). Give me Dooley or Butch again (maybe they've learned some stuff along the way). Give me anyone other than Dykes.
Give me random Volnation poster and let us call plays via Twitter poll
 
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just wondering - has anyone legitimately come out and said Campbell has declined?

Or did we just skip way past him in our (VN/fans) assumption that we’ve already plummeted to a Sonny Dykes level hire?

We still all just completely guessing?
 
I think Fulmer was planning on retiring this winter anyway. In a case of bad timing, the coaching staff got exposed cheating just as his time was approaching.

I think that's how UT leadership was able to find a top-quality new AD so astoundingly fast. They'd already been quietly looking for weeks, maybe even a few months.
Fulmer is getting his full salary as if he were fired.
 
I think Fulmer was planning on retiring this winter anyway. In a case of bad timing, the coaching staff got exposed cheating just as his time was approaching.

I think that's how UT leadership was able to find a top-quality new AD so astoundingly fast. They'd already been quietly looking for weeks, maybe even a few months.
Fulmer wasn't going to retire, he just extended himself over the summer. Fulmer was a joke, disaster and has ruined his legacy here forever
 
just wondering - has anyone legitimately come out and said Campbell has declined?

Or did we just skip way past him in our (VN/fans) assumption that we’ve already plummeted to a Sonny Dykes level hire?

We still all just completely guessing?
It's Campbell because Campbell hasn't said no.
 
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