Recruiting Forum Football Talk IV

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What???...I think you’re confusing sin being forgiven by a Savior with committing a crime that deserves to be punished by society. The punishment brings justice, serves as a deterrent for others and helps the person who committed the crime feel like they have paid their debt. There is plenty in the Bible about punishing criminals. Jesus did not die to fix society by telling criminals that it’s okay what they did. Plenty of criminals in jail that accept that forgiveness and still serve their time.
You are correct. But Jesus routinely chose the worst people to teach, help, and as his disciples. Pretty sure he hates the sin and not the person. All sin is equal in his eyes. And Jesus himself was killed for being a criminal. I don’t hate Ruggs. I hate what he did. And I’m not going to judge him because I am not without sin.
 
Dropping catchable balls, especially in the end zone, is not a good look and is a sure way to lose trust with the staff
I agree with your point, but I only remember the drop on 4th down that was well away from the endzone. Hyatt has had more drops and the coaches have stuck with him. I think the difference between Hyatt and Calloway is probably that Hyatt is doing things the way the coaches want him to in practice and Calloway evidently isn't putting in that same effort.
 
So you don't condemn Ruggs' actions? You think causing the fiery death of a young woman through stupidity is okay? I'm not judging Ruggs' mortal soul, but I'm perfectly fine saying he did wrong and deserves to be punished.
Yes and no. What he did was stupid and irresponsible and I’m sure he knows that and deeply regrets the poor decision he made. However I’ve made plenty of very poor choices and could easily be the one that caused an accident. I’m sure alot of people on this board have drivin very fast, texted and drove, drank a few and drove, plenty of other things that endangered you and potentially someone elses life. We were just a lot more fortunate than Ruggs. Thousands of people every day make poor decisions driving that results in thousands of severe accidents and deaths

My heart breaks for the girls family and friends that life just got flipped upside down. For the girl that just had her life ended far too early bcuz of someone else’s poor choice. Hopefully she is saved

However I still feel compassion for Ruggs, as a senior in HS his best friend died in a car accident. He blamed himself for it even tho he wasn’t even there. After every TD he held up 3 to honor him and then created shirts and the profits went to feed hungry children in NV. I’m sure he’s going through a lot mentally and spiritually. I don’t believe he left his house that day with the intent to kill someone and love and compassion is what he needs

People make poor decisions a lot, even more so when they’re young and those poor decisions only get worse when alcohol is involved.

So while I think what he did was stupid, selfish and irresponsible I can’t sit here and say things like I’d like to watch him burn or id light a match when I’ve done similar things.
 
The NCAA is such a joke. Needs to be dissolved and let the Conferencws handle. infuruating that it will take years to hear our case. That little bald headed snake shouldnt get a penny
 
I was going to hike to Signal Point in the next day or so. Seems like a good steep hike with a view.

Damn, that’s a scary fall in the middle of the night. Glad you’re alright. That’s cool you got up and went rappelling the next morning. I’m looking forward to Signal Point and Raccoon Mountain, too. Then get up to Looking Glass in Pisgah in NC. This is the best time of the year to go hiking/camping.
Fall Creek Falls State Park is beautiful and has good hiking trails - my favorite state park in Tennessee
(That’s Mr Smokin down there)
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You are correct. But Jesus routinely chose the worst people to teach, help, and as his disciples. Pretty sure he hates the sin and not the person. All sin is equal in his eyes. And Jesus himself was killed for being a criminal. I don’t hate Ruggs. I hate what he did. And I’m not going to judge him because I am not without sin.
None of us are. Don't hate him either, but forgiveness does not remove accountability. When Allen Collins of Skynyrd had a drunk-driving wreck that killed his girlfriend and left him paralyzed, part of his sentence was coming out in his wheelchair and speaking to crowds at concerts about his bad choices and the consequences. Would think that part of Ruggs sentence would need to be something along these lines.
 
None of us are. Don't hate him either, but forgiveness does not remove accountability. When Allen Collins of Skynyrd had a drunk-driving wreck that killed his girlfriend and left him paralyzed, part of his sentence was coming out in his wheelchair and speaking to crowds at concerts about his bad choices and the consequences. Would think that part of Ruggs sentence would need to be something along these lines.
Yep, I agree…. Hopefully he tries to make it as right as he can on his own…. Hopefully influence some youth that looked up to him as a player.
 
Sympathy and compassion are both considered synonyms for empathy.
I disagree there, but I won't claim to be an expert on the subject. I'm sure there are some who say that, but I know there are others who don't. Empathy is a psychological term as I understand it, which simply means seeking to understand. It often leads to sympathy and compassion, but I don't think the words sympathy and empathy would both exist if they both meant the exact same thing.

Regardless, I think you get the gist of my comment, even we differ on our definitions of the word used.
 
The NCAA is such a joke. Needs to be dissolved and let the Conferencws handle. infuruating that it will take years to hear our case. That little bald headed snake shouldnt get a penny

Because the conferences have done such a great job with officials and reining in problem children. I know the ncaa is frustrating but our conferences are just as corrupt, maybe even more when it comes to protecting the cash cows and favorites.
 
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