Recruiting Forum Football Talk IV

[tnhunter 10]

Why would Baron want to transfer? makes zero sense...

With all these kids decommitting and going into the portal, we should have our pick at who we want, and at what position based on pure numbers alone. Go Gettem Heup!!!!!!

Swain said its 50/50 on Baron and Holiday transferring. Does not look for Hyatt to transfer.

 

[SpringBokVol]

So my wife and I were booked to spend a week in Cancun starting tomorrow. Can't go. She got sick. So that's that.

 

[Weezer]

Apparently the NCAA is gonna investigate multiple teams for NIL violations. This is very good for us

Probably Texas AM is one

Sonofa...

You just know they'll come after us, even though we don't have any mega-NIL deals.

Bryce Young and Bama broke the rules...let's punish Tennessee.

 

[Buddy’s Bandit]

This guy. Lol

Bringing linemen….big time

 

[Devo182]

From VQ. Too good not to share. Poor gatuhs...they got what they were wishing for - something different

UFcoach2035 said:

Jason I’ve been with you for about five years now and even had the opportunity of speaking with you on the phone a couple times and last week I was so encouraged and excited by honestly how excited you seem to be I know you’ve been covering this industry for many years I would think this has to come across to you as peculiar and also not necessarily a formula you’ve seen before at a top level program.

I also can’t imagine you thought this was what week one was gonna look like. I honestly thought he was going to call players that bounced because of the other staff and circle back and really was going to surprise us with a few that he was going to be able to get. Are you concerned at all now with this approach and was this really a program that needed to be bulldoze and built back up from the ground.

I could see that formula at say a Nebraska Miami type and I know we were lacking in the recruiting area but going about it this way?\

answer:

for sure this formula and plan is not something I have watched unfold before - not like this. Napier was crystal clear in his presser this was going to happen I think the issue for most was they did not really believe it was going to happen lol so most are dazed and confused. The hast staff was fired and out the door in four maybe Napier wanted to wash his hands of anyone the previous staff was recruiting? Hard to say exactly but he warned us this was the plan. I keep saying bad news is not over daily so no one should be shocked when it happens again

 

[DawgInterloper]

Apparently the NCAA is gonna investigate multiple teams for NIL violations. This is very good for us

Probably Texas AM is one

Does anybody even have a good handle on what constitutes an NIL violation? I've read that you can't promise a deal before a recruit signs the LOI, but there were a couple of high school juniors who moved up their graduation to 2021 and immediately signed NIL deals. Obviously they knew the money was on the table, but proving that is next to impossible. And some schools' boosters are setting up funds to pay every player on the roster (and I believe some will even pay walk-ons), which obviously the recruits will know about in advance of signing. I'm sure plenty of these transfer portal kids have offers on the table before they submit transfer paperwork. When it comes to roster management and salaries, college football is now probably the most wide open, unregulatable team sport on the planet.

 

[SweetasSoda]

I don't speak Twitter. Where are the young kids that can translate? @Christian Lowe

So you haven’t finished your assignment from yesterday?

 

[Devo182]

Sonofa...

You just know they'll come after us, even though we don't have any mega-NIL deals.

Bryce Young and Bama broke the rules...let's punish Tennessee.

Yehh we won't be on the radar. The whole word was we were taking things slowly to make sure everything was compliant. I mean our people just now struck a deal with a big NiL company. Months after most did. We safe.

 

[BigSteve09]

So my wife and I were booked to spend a week in Cancun starting tomorrow. Can't go. She got sick. So that's that.

Getting on the plane like

 

[Buddy’s Bandit]

I bet we are at the top of the list….NCAA - “Where do we start?” “That’s easy, UTn

 

[jave36]

So my wife and I were booked to spend a week in Cancun starting tomorrow. Can't go. She got sick. So that's that.

Sounds like you need to get away to avoid getting sick too. If only there were somewhere warm far away that you already have reservations for....

 

[De La Cloobs]

Sonofa...

You just know they'll come after us, even though we don't have any mega-NIL deals.

Bryce Young and Bama broke the rules...let's punish Tennessee.

I feel this will work to our favor. We have been behind on NIL deals in comparison to other schools.

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

So my wife and I were booked to spend a week in Cancun starting tomorrow. Can't go. She got sick. So that's that.

That’s sucks! Sorry to hear!

 

[jave36]

Does anybody even have a good handle on what constitutes an NIL violation? I've read that you can't promise a deal before a recruit signs the LOI, but there were a couple of high school juniors who moved up their graduation to 2021 and immediately signed NIL deals. Obviously they knew the money was on the table, but proving that is next to impossible. And some schools' boosters are setting up funds to pay every player on the roster (and I believe some will even pay walk-ons), which obviously the recruits will know about in advance of signing. I'm sure plenty of these transfer portal kids have offers on the table before they submit transfer paperwork. When it comes to roster management and salaries, college football is now probably the most wide open, unregulatable team sport on the planet.

If I had to guess, I'd say the violations are when school employees or coaches are involved in getting NIL deals for recruits before they're on campus.

 

[Devo182]

Does anybody even have a good handle on what constitutes an NIL violation? I've read that you can't promise a deal before a recruit signs the LOI, but there were a couple of high school juniors who moved up their graduation to 2021 and immediately signed NIL deals. Obviously they knew the money was on the table, but proving that is next to impossible. And some schools' boosters are setting up funds to pay every player on the roster (and I believe some will even pay walk-ons), which obviously the recruits will know about in advance of signing. I'm sure plenty of these transfer portal kids have offers on the table before they submit transfer paperwork. When it comes to roster management and salaries, college football is probably the most wide open, unregulatable team sport on the planet.

The school really can't be involved in much, if any, way. Supposed to be a deal with 2 parties - the SA and payor. I do believe they ultimately decided boosters' businesses could be involved...but could be wrong on that.

There cannot be inducement to come (HS recruits)

There cannot be pay for performance (current SAs)

As for recruits and waiting till they sign...I don't believe there's anything wrong with a business offering a deal...as long as there isn't inducement (such as the Ewers deal with Holy Kombucha - a Texas business - unlikely inducing for OSU). It's just that most states won't allow a kid to accept it without becoming ineligible with their state association, thus why kids are jumping early.

That's all I know of, but I bet a lot of schools were doing all of this. Likely directly involving themselves in deals to get recruits and get SAs paid, if I had to guess.

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

Google the NY Giants schedule and record.

Shhh I wanted insider info

 

[BubbaWms]

Sounds like you need to get away to avoid getting sick too. If only there were somewhere warm far away that you already have reservations for....

 

[SweetasSoda]

Does anybody even have a good handle on what constitutes an NIL violation? I've read that you can't promise a deal before a recruit signs the LOI, but there were a couple of high school juniors who moved up their graduation to 2021 and immediately signed NIL deals. Obviously they knew the money was on the table, but proving that is next to impossible. And some schools' boosters are setting up funds to pay every player on the roster (and I believe some will even pay walk-ons), which obviously the recruits will know about in advance of signing. I'm sure plenty of these transfer portal kids have offers on the table before they submit transfer paperwork. When it comes to roster management and salaries, college football is now probably the most wide open, unregulatable team sport on the planet.

I gave up trying to figure it all out.

 

[Devo182]

Question, because I haven't paid much attention to the NIL rules.

Could a school technically set up an NIL deal and have it offered to a recruiting prospect, have them walk on and then later put them on scholarship so it doesn't count against a recruiting class? Therefore having the capability to add more players to the roster but simultaneously staying within the signing limit?

Don't think walk-ons have any special rules for NiL. So, I'd say so. Just as if someone had paid them under the table before. But, as many experts have pointed out - not many stud players want to be considered a walk-on/blueshirt. It's basically a put down. Think you'd have to pay a premium to get them to (gotta make up school, board, the COL stipend, etc plus a good bit).

But the school can't set up deals. That's pretty much a clear no-no...but of course all probably are via backchannels...so...

 

[BubbaWms]

Does anybody even have a good handle on what constitutes an NIL violation?

The not so serious cliff note version....
*Whatever NIL Tennessee boosters sign is legal !
^Any UGA, FL, Bama....the hell with it, all other NIL's are illegal

 

[Ron Swanson]

 

[OrangeBlood4life]

Clemson going down like the titanic. And I'm here for it!!!

 

[headhunter15]

Dabo to the Raiders?

 

[tennesseefan31]

Would love to get Ladson

 

[GoVolsGo54]

What would our class be ranked if we were to flip Nolen and Tyre West?