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I don't see why folks do not get this. Milton had an entire year to improve himself after losing the job for the same stuff at Michigan. He was on that roster 3 years. It was no secret, he knew why he lost the job, yet, he is still doing it after fall camp and 1.5 games.

Enough.

Because Jim Harbaugh has a great track record at developing QB’s. Not quite that easy, but folks act like it is.
 
I don't see why folks do not get this. Milton had an entire year to improve himself after losing the job for the same stuff at Michigan. He was on that roster 3 years. It was no secret, he knew why he lost the job, yet, he is still doing it after fall camp and 1.5 games.

Enough.
Michigans always has these issues with their QBs….. I feel all three QBs should be given a blank slate working with Heup.
 
I watched that Michigan game a bit and saw Harbaugh has roughly a .700 win percentage since becoming head coach there.

I hope Heupel can at least do the same..

Would love it, but it’s not because Harbaugh’s QB’s are throwing it around the yard.

Each offense and program creates a different scenario, and these stats and plays aren’t in a vacuum. I have even said that I was mildly surprised that Milton won the job, but Heupel has a much better track record of producing successful college QB’s than Jim Harbaugh, and his offense is a big part of it.
 
Whoever starts the next game is likely to start against UF in the swamp. They need to have their QB for the rest of the season coming out of that UF game because the season will turn on the next three winnable games.

So if they are smart, and I think they are, they will be prepping for UF while playing against TN Tech. They will be totally focused on depth and scheme they plan to use on D. They will be working on timing and execution for the type O they plan to use against UF.
 
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I watched that Michigan game a bit and saw Harbaugh has roughly a .700 win percentage since becoming head coach there.

I hope Heupel can at least do the same..
One of the funniest overreactions that I saw was involving Michigan…… first game I saw headline that stated Michigan has finally found a QB….. second game….. that QB was 7-15-44 yds. LOL
 
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Would love it, but it’s not because Harbaugh’s QB’s are throwing it around the yard.

Each offense and program creates a different scenario, and these stats and plays aren’t in a vacuum. I have even said that I was mildly surprised that Milton won the job, but Heupel has a much better track record of producing successful college QB’s than Jim Harbaugh, and his offense is a big part of it.

I think Milton won the job because Heupel assumed he was in Year 0 of a multi year rebuild, and he had time to develop him.

I think Heupel probably realizes now that:

a) Milton has real issues and

b) this fanbase thinks he’s in year 5, he recruited all these players and he has had much more than a couple dozen two-hour practices to install his system

With those two things in mind, I bet Milton is on a real short leash going forward
 
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Right..I could see us winning all three or losing them all, but it doesn't matter to me, all I know is the team under previous leadership would have laid down and quit yesterday and these guys didn't...THAT was what I really wanted to see this year, I knew mistakes would happen, and I knew injuries would happen, and I knew there was too much "new" and completely different going on to be consistent...but what I didn't know was how these guys would deal with adversity...now I know.
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I think at this point Milton is who he is. Rocket arm with no touch. He isn't hitting those passes.
He showed touch on the last deep ball he threw before being injured. Missed the receiver by about 2 yards but put Air under it just a slight overthrow.

It is something he can do he just needs to figure it out
 
I think Milton won the job because Heupel assumed he was in Year 0 of a multi year rebuild, and he had time to develop him.

I think Heupel probably realizes now that:

a) Milton has real issues and

b) this fanbase thinks he’s in year 5, he recruited all these players and he has had much more than a couple dozen two-hour practices to install his system

With those two things in mind, I bet Milton is on a real short leash going forward
All 3 of our QBs have issues…. Hopefully he can get one of them to be consistent.
 
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Because Jim Harbaugh has a great track record at developing QB’s. Not quite that easy, but folks act like it is.

Milton chose to go to Michigan and Harbaugh over many top schools. He chose to stay there 3 years. Does that not speak to his state of mind and personal ability to analyze? They are related, bud.
 
Another note on attendance –

Aside from the virus there are other issues that lead to a decline in attendance. We haven’t been that good in a long time, so that’s one factor. Another is that for those of my generation we grew up going to games because the only alternative for most weeks was to listen to John Ward on the radio. There was in those days an NCAA limit to how many times a team could appear on TV in the regular season.

Another factor could be the birth-death model. Older people are moving to that great stadium in the sky and since younger folks have hardly ever known our team to be all that, they’re rooting for our rivals.

Butch proved in 2015 & 2016 that you could still fill Neyland. He actually got a bump in first year attendance, something denied to Pruitt and yet to be determined with Heupel.

According to a 2018 survey by the Wall Street Journal, reported attendance numbers are significantly inflated. Their survey indicated that only 71% of reported attendance actually showed up for games. The reason, for FBS teams, is that schools have to report at least 15,000 attendance in order to maintain FBS classification, so you know Vandy is lying on their reports.

Anyway, this table is our reported attendance from the NCAA since 2005. 2020 & 2021 numbers come from the UTSports website. We have some big games remaining on our schedule this year which could boost our average before the season is done. If we start winning that would help. If Bailey starts playing and is not a bust that might also generate some added sales. jmo.

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Milton chose to go to Michigan and Harbaugh over many top schools. He chose to stay there 3 years. Does that not speak to his state of mind and personal ability to analyze? They are related, bud.
How many college students have the personal ability to analyze?
 
Another note on attendance –

Aside from the virus there are other issues that lead to a decline in attendance. We haven’t been that good in a long time, so that’s one factor. Another is that for those of my generation we grew up going to games because the only alternative for most weeks was to listen to John Ward on the radio. There was in those days an NCAA limit to how many times a team could appear on TV in the regular season.

Another factor could be the birth-death model. Older people are moving to that great stadium in the sky and since younger folks have hardly ever known our team to be all that, they’re rooting for our rivals.

Butch proved in 2015 & 2016 that you could still fill Neyland. He actually got a bump in first year attendance, something denied to Pruitt and yet to be determined with Heupel.

According to a 2018 survey by the Wall Street Journal, reported attendance numbers are significantly inflated. Their survey indicated that only 71% of reported attendance actually showed up for games. The reason, for FBS teams, is that schools have to report at least 15,000 attendance in order to maintain FBS classification, so you know Vandy is lying on their reports.

Anyway, this table is our reported attendance from the NCAA since 2005. 2020 & 2021 numbers come from the UTSports website. We have some big games remaining on our schedule this year which could boost our average before the season is done. If we start winning that would help. If Bailey starts playing and is not a bust that might also generate some added sales. jmo.

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That's just sad to see
 
Another note on attendance –

Aside from the virus there are other issues that lead to a decline in attendance. We haven’t been that good in a long time, so that’s one factor. Another is that for those of my generation we grew up going to games because the only alternative for most weeks was to listen to John Ward on the radio. There was in those days an NCAA limit to how many times a team could appear on TV in the regular season.

Another factor could be the birth-death model. Older people are moving to that great stadium in the sky and since younger folks have hardly ever known our team to be all that, they’re rooting for our rivals.

Butch proved in 2015 & 2016 that you could still fill Neyland. He actually got a bump in first year attendance, something denied to Pruitt and yet to be determined with Heupel.

According to a 2018 survey by the Wall Street Journal, reported attendance numbers are significantly inflated. Their survey indicated that only 71% of reported attendance actually showed up for games. The reason, for FBS teams, is that schools have to report at least 15,000 attendance in order to maintain FBS classification, so you know Vandy is lying on their reports.

Anyway, this table is our reported attendance from the NCAA since 2005. 2020 & 2021 numbers come from the UTSports website. We have some big games remaining on our schedule this year which could boost our average before the season is done. If we start winning that would help. If Bailey starts playing and is not a bust that might also generate some added sales. jmo.

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Insane numbers. Is this a UT problem or are other programs experiencing the same?

I usually attend a game a season. Have been to at least a game a year since 2006 except for last year. I do love going to games, but I also love watching with my family and having a little party with food.
 
Would love it, but it’s not because Harbaugh’s QB’s are throwing it around the yard.

Each offense and program creates a different scenario, and these stats and plays aren’t in a vacuum. I have even said that I was mildly surprised that Milton won the job, but Heupel has a much better track record of producing successful college QB’s than Jim Harbaugh, and his offense is a big part of it.

Agree on Heup's ability to develop QB's versus Harbaugh's

So why devote your efforts and toward your team's future success to Harbaugh's unsuccessful project QB? There was not enough time to redevelop him. That's 3 years of past Harbaugh development to overcome. He already had one 4th year transfer to redevelop on his roster who was more successful with more experience at an ACC school that got demoted. So now Heup's got time to redevelop two 4th year transfers, plus redevelop HB and Maurer while installing his total system? Nah, we know the answer to that. He messed up. JMO.
 
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