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VolGee4 said:
To be honest, Joyce makes me nervous. He’s fun to watch, but at times, he has no idea where it’s going.
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Orange Studs said:
LOL Has nothing to do with the loss. Go back and read what I said. I said "I wonder why TV doesn't use him as closer "along with Walsh." And I also said that what I said was not anything bad about Walsh. He's been great. So the "easy to say after a loss" doesn't have anything to do with my statement. And your statement about he has never been in that position, neither had Walsh at one time. At some point everyone has to start with the first time. Walsh isn't always going to be on like tonight. He was very hittable.
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But I doubt they put Joyce in that spot 3/4 through the season. If they were going to do it, it would have been weeks ago. Just doesn’t make sense to run Joyce out there in the 7th SEC series of the year. They run these guys in spots early in the year to see how they do for later. I would say you wouldn’t have made the comment if we had won.
 
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Orange Studs said:
LOL Has nothing to do with the loss. Go back and read what I said. I said "I wonder why TV doesn't use him as closer "along with Walsh." And I also said that what I said was not anything bad about Walsh. He's been great. So the "easy to say after a loss" doesn't have anything to do with my statement. And your statement about he has never been in that position, neither had Walsh at one time. At some point everyone has to start with the first time. Walsh isn't always going to be on like tonight. He was very hittable.
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Walsh's stuff, to me, is a great followup to burns to set up a closer. Trot him out there as a setup guy. Normally we're up a bunch if runs anyway.
 
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Let's face it - the Vols, Barn and umps had a crap game last night. They get to celebrate with the key HR in the end. It happens, it's happened for our guys before.

Who botches the call on two pick-offs with the same runner at the same AB? Compounded with the good ole SEC office doing what they do on the reviews. The home plate ump had about a one foot strike zone - with both teams. At least he was consistent.

But the IF on both teams played poorly at times and the pitching was spotty with WP's that scored runs. At times CTV was spot on and at other times it was like, "Wut?" Having Ortega try to bunt with two on, no outs, and him having hit two big HR's the night before was one of those. Having Luc hit 6th in the BO when he has been clearly slumping while Evan is hitting 7th when he clearly has been hitting well is another. Pulling Blake Burke to pinch hit Christian Moore when the pitcher is a right hander was another. Not having a feel for Walsh losing the plate with the tight strike zone of the ump was the killer - but there were lots of other reasons they lost as well. Fouling off hanging curves and mediocre fast balls down the middle of the zone would be just a couple of those.

It's baseball. Learn from it and adjust. Next game, please. I'll leave the pursuit of records to others. I just want to see them win it all - bring home the CWS trophy. My eyes tell me they may be the best college team of all time. It's up to them.
 
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Orange Studs said:
LOL Has nothing to do with the loss. Go back and read what I said. I said "I wonder why TV doesn't use him as closer "along with Walsh." And I also said that what I said was not anything bad about Walsh. He's been great. So the "easy to say after a loss" doesn't have anything to do with my statement. And your statement about he has never been in that position, neither had Walsh at one time. At some point everyone has to start with the first time. Walsh isn't always going to be on like tonight. He was very hittable.
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Because Tony trusts Walsh. He is THE closer. He blew the save. It happens. You don't just have to pitch great to be the closer. You have to have the right mindset. Tony clearly thinks that Walsh does. Walsh is likely not available today if he is needed and Tony will use someone else.
 
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jave36 said:
I feel like cade could have made more money with a decent NIL vs 6th round draft pick. Not sure why he wouldn't come back another year.
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Injury concerns, and just being tired of college and wanting to move on..in my opinion.

I also think he could have improved his draft status with another really good year, but I get it.
 
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SoilVol said:
Flowers and Banks might get themselves drafted next year. I don't think anyone expected Theo Jackson would get drafted this time last year. I'd argue few expected Butler would be drafted until midway through the season.
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Prime examples of hard work, buying in and just being coachable paying off in a winning lottery ticket.
 
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VolGee4 said:
But I doubt they put Joyce in that spot 3/4 through the season. If they were going to do it, it would have been weeks ago. Just doesn’t make sense to run Joyce out there in the 7th SEC series of the year. They run these guys in spots early in the year to see how they do for later. I would say you wouldn’t have made the comment if we had won.
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You say it would have been done weeks ago. That may be true but when you have the luxury that TV has with Walsh you don't have to be in a hurry. And why does it not make sense to try him in the later part of the season after he has had several appearances already. At some point Walsh was ran out there and became a proven closer. You can't be a proven closer until you get the opportunity. Now if TV wants to try him as starter then great that would answer the question I asked to start this whole conversation. And as far as your last comment about the loss, I had already when we first got introduce to Joyce as a picture thought he would be an awesome closer. You are trying to make this out about the loss. So we are only allowed to ask things after a win? It's baseball. Your going to lose some games. lol
 
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drvenner said:
Because Tony trusts Walsh. He is THE closer. He blew the save. It happens. You don't just have to pitch great to be the closer. You have to have the right mindset. Tony clearly thinks that Walsh does. Walsh is likely not available today if he is needed and Tony will use someone else.
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Walsh is the closer and I wasn't questioning that. I was simply asking or wondering if TV has consider using Joyce as a closer along with not instead of. When I first saw Joyce I thought he could be a really tough closer. Not to replace Walsh. Walsh has been solid and tried to make sure in my original post that it wasn't anything toward Walsh, I just would love to see what Joyce could do as a close.
 
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Orange Studs said:
Walsh is the closer and I wasn't questioning that. I was simply asking or wondering if TV has consider using Joyce as a closer along with not instead of. When I first saw Joyce I thought he could be a really tough closer. Not to replace Walsh. Walsh has been solid and tried to make sure in my original post that it wasn't anything toward Walsh, I just would love to see what Joyce could do as a close.
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If he sticks around he might be closer next year. Right now he just doesn't have enough experience to be a closer
 
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