Jackcrevol
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Here is a pretty scary story from a guy that lives in Alaska about wolves trying to hunt and kill him in his own words.I have a friend that his wifes family owns a ranch that abuts the Eastern side of Yellowstone in Wyoming. They run a ranch where as he puts it "City folk can play Cowboy for a week". Anyway he was telling me about the Grizzles and Wolves around their ranch. He said up until about 20 years ago it was rare to see a Grizzle on the ranch and Wolves were not that big of a deal but now when his daughters, wife, farm hand or whom ever goes to feed the horses (they raise them for the business) they have got to carry a gun. He said you never know what or how many are on the other side of the barn.
He also said that every person that lives in Los Angles or New York should have a bear or a wolf that lives really really close. He said it gives you a different perspective for sure.
Tell her she'll never ragret it. I presume their ranch is in W Yellowstone, or Cody (cant recall which direction)?They do a lot of guided Elk hunts and things like that as well. I never have been and he wants us to stay with them out there. The only way my wife is camping is if they can haul a NICE hotel everywhere on the ranch they make camp.
The two states are just trying to keep populations controlled...no surprise with all the slow fat tasty cattle just wandering around. They don't want to exterminate them.some might. if there were a common sense way to protect farmers livlihoods and protect the pack id be all for it.
Im really surprised Idaho and MT have allowed hunting of them. Yellowstone reintroduction was largely heralded as a major success top down.
That has always cracked me up when people say we need to protect the tigers in India. I doubt many Indians will bemoan tigers not stalking the woods where their kids play.I have a friend that his wifes family owns a ranch that abuts the Eastern side of Yellowstone in Wyoming. They run a ranch where as he puts it "City folk can play Cowboy for a week". Anyway he was telling me about the Grizzles and Wolves around their ranch. He said up until about 20 years ago it was rare to see a Grizzle on the ranch and Wolves were not that big of a deal but now when his daughters, wife, farm hand or whom ever goes to feed the horses (they raise them for the business) they have got to carry a gun. He said you never know what or how many are on the other side of the barn.
He also said that every person that lives in Los Angles or New York should have a bear or a wolf that lives really really close. He said it gives you a different perspective for sure.
I agree..people and livestock are sometimes killed by lions out west, but since they are not "reintroduced", there is no one to sue. Eventually they will spread back to the east in greater numbers.Red wolf reintroductions are failing because they can't keep the bloodline pure (coyotes). I would not be shocked to see red wolves be declared extinct in my lifetime.
Lions occasionally pop up in the western half of the state. Typically rouge males from the badlands per genetic analysis. They'll eventually reestablish in the east, but no agency is going to open that can of worms. As soon as someone gets hurt or lifestock killed they'll get sued, even if its wrong.
Bears are spreading at a rapid rate. They're now st starting to get established in areas of the midstate. I continue to hope the state will establish some in LBL like they did BSF but I'm not convinced they will. The black bear population today is higher than its been in the last century (or two) and only growing. Not an apex predator, but will take fawns and change some behavior patterns. Hunting where there's predators is an awesome feeling.
I lived in an apartment complex when I was a kid and there was a fairly large patch of woods behind it. Rumor began to spread of a black panther spotted in there and all of us kid spent countless hours looking for it for pretty much an entire summer and fall. Probably was just a very clever parent, but I do remember that summer being a lot of fun.They are usually thought to be melanistic cougars or bobcats. They have been spotted here in Lincoln County on trail cams too, but haven't been "confirmed." I was just really wanting set up a chance to use this meme:
Indians wanting to kill you and take your females captive if not just kill them outright...and outlaws freely wandering around wanting to rob you, rape your wife and daughters then kill all of you...Imagine being alive back then to see undammed rivers and streams, old growth Appalachia, untouched scenery.
Salmon stocked rivers, Buffalo abounding, no power lines.
Most large animals live in what is called edge habitat. Where varieties of food sources are available. In a thick old growth the canopy blocks out sunlight and prevents understory plants from growing. Mostly you'll find smaller animals like squirrels, and birds. The only real food source there is autumn mast like acorns and hickory nuts or a hotspot around a fallen tree. At the forest's edge you get berry bushes, insects pollinating wildflowers, and tuberous plants that can provide food year round.You will need to explain this further as I did not pay attention in high school biology apparently. You are saying that there is no game in the park because of old growth trees? And we need to clear cut to create habitat for...what exactly?
You're gonna play the Andrew Jackson angle? That xenophobia got a lot of people killed.Indians wanting to kill you and take you females captive if not just kill them outright...and outlaws freely wandering around wanting to rob you, rape your wife and daughters then kill all of you...
Good times....good times..
They are coming...slowly but surely.@Weezer moves to the edge of his seat.
What about E Tennessee? Id love to see Mtn Lions reintroduced.