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[chargervol]

My not so bold prediction. Losing Heupel (sp?) is going to hurt Mizzou a great deal. Dooley may be very good (I doubt it) but there will be a dropoff because Heupel was great as an OC.

I have doubts about him being good simply because he's incapable of earning/keeping respect.

 

[butchna]

Every head coach in football calls plays/overrides at times on both sides of the ball. I can promise you that.

I’ve lost faith in your promises. Overriding a play designed and implemented by an assistant in favor of an alternate play designed by same said assistant constitutes proven playcalling acumen? “Ok BUD!” :lol:

 

[Sleegro]

Not going to be involved in a debate the drags on for pages.

On one hand I have two players, 1 on the sideline, 1 in the game.
On the other hand I have posters who say "because I don't think so".

If anybody shows up with something more convincing, I'll join back in. Until then, it's not even close.

How do they define his involvement is my question?

 

[butchna]

What is Chaney’s offense? Was it the great ones at Purdue and Tennessee? Or the average ones at Georgia, Arkansas, and Pitt?

Yes.

 

[butchna]

Why is there never any middle ground on Volnation? 😂

Maybe Dooley wanted a certain style offense and he and Chaney worked together on it? Maybe Dooley had input, and Chaney called the plays.

We agree that dooley wasn’t the primary playcaller right?

Don’t know. Ole Hank shouts down any claims that he’s never been an OC with claims that he was at least 50/50 involved in the offense.

 

[Sleegro]

Why is there never any middle ground on Volnation? 😂

Maybe Dooley wanted a certain style offense and he and Chaney worked together on it? Maybe Dooley had input, and Chaney called the plays.

We agree that dooley wasn’t the primary playcaller right?

I said he probably had input on the style. I don't think that makes him qualified to be an oc.

 

[LaagerVol]

I said he probably had input on the style. I don't think that makes him qualified to be an oc.

Agreed

 

[Sleegro]

Not going to be involved in a debate the drags on for pages.

On one hand I have two players, 1 on the sideline, 1 in the game.
On the other hand I have posters who say "because I don't think so".

If anybody shows up with something more convincing, I'll join back in. Until then, it's not even close.

As far as it not being close, I provided a lot of reasoning which lead to my conclusions. You provided vague anonymous hearsay that I'm supposed to believe. We don't have to agree but don't act like you won something. Haha. It's a fun friendly debate about football so I don't think we'll offend anyone.

 

[engineerVOL]

All this Dooley talk. Had an ad pop up in another app for a Doggie Dooley... a small septic tank where you put your dog crap. 😆

 

[butchna]

I said he probably had input on the style. I don't think that makes him qualified to be an oc.

Saying that he’s never been an OC or been a playcaller doesn’t make him fail at Mizzou...that’s his job.

 

[chargervol]

How do they define his involvement is my question?

Completely involved in game planning.
Above average in scheming and play design.
Slightly above average in overriding OC on play calls. But his calls worked.
Which all leads to a good offensive mind despite his complete inability to actually coach.
Which was my original post that you just had to denounce but refuse to give a single reason as to why you would know better than the players.
Has that changed?

 

[Vols4us]

According to Chaney, Kiffin, and Dools. First hand accounts from discussions with each and a couple VFL friends during spring practices those years.

Kiffin designed/schemed the O, led game planning meetings, and play called unless Chaney was told to take over while he handled other things, in which case Chaney handled it. In practices Chaney coordinated the development of position groups, techniques taught, etc. to fit the scheme.

When Dooley came in, Chaney took over officially as OC. Dooley told Chaney what he wanted to accomplish and was hands on in the passing game with receivers/TE's as well as special teams. Chaney and Dooley game planned and Chaney play called.

Chaney was QB coach and some O-line coaching under Tiller at Purdue and helped scheme the O and game plan.

No more conversations with any of them after they left. But Hank's claims that Chaney is not scheming, game planning, and play calling at Arky and UGA - that's just wrong. Every head coach has authority to override.

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

Saying that he’s never been an OC or been a playcaller doesn’t make him fail at Mizzou...that’s his job.

He did have that nice catch on the sidelines that one time.....

 

[chargervol]

As far as it not being close, I provided a lot of reasoning which lead to my conclusions. You provided vague anonymous hearsay that I'm supposed to believe. We don't have to agree but don't act like you won something. Haha. It's a fun friendly debate about football so I don't think we'll offend anyone.

Acting like I won something?

My "not even close" comment was about who I'm gonna believe. I don't give a damn about you believing me. I gave my opinion and you attacked it based on "I don't think so".

I never suggested that you change your opinion or that I want to win anything. You will have the popular vote because that's what everyone wants to be true. So if I cared, I wouldn't have stated my opinion to begin with.
As far as implying that I lie, I'm not gonna bother responding, yet.

 

[Catbone]

This upcoming week is the last full week without football practice notes incoming!

 

[orange parmejohn]

This upcoming week is the last full week without football practice notes incoming!

Like given.

 

[LaagerVol]

According to Chaney, Kiffin, and Dools. First hand accounts from discussions with each and a couple VFL friends during spring practices those years.

Kiffin designed/schemed the O, led game planning meetings, and play called unless Chaney was told to take over while he handled other things, in which case Chaney handled it. In practices Chaney coordinated the development of position groups, techniques taught, etc. to fit the scheme.

When Dooley came in, Chaney took over officially as OC. Dooley told Chaney what he wanted to accomplish and was hands on in the passing game with receivers/TE's as well as special teams. Chaney and Dooley game planned and Chaney play called.

Chaney was QB coach and some O-line coaching under Tiller at Purdue and helped scheme the O and game plan.

No more conversations with any of them after they left. But Hank's claims that Chaney is not scheming, game planning, and play calling at Arky and UGA - that's just wrong. Every head coach has authority to override.

/debate

 

[millst987]

How many are we gonna win boys?

 

[LaagerVol]

How many are we gonna win boys?

XV-nulla

 

[vol2002]

How many are we gonna win boys?

Honestly I’m at 5 to 7 wins, depending on a few plays. I fully expect us to look competent on the field and to be competitive in most games. I have a feeling we take Alabama deeper into the game than most would expect. But this season will be a hard slog all around.

 

[millst987]

6 should make most happy imo. I think Pruitt might even get us to 7 though. This is the first coach I’ve liked in a long time

 

[chargervol]

How many are we gonna win boys?

5 I'm disappointed.
6 I'm good but not crowning anyone.
7 I'm feeling a little cocky
8 time to smack talk the big boys

 

[BigOrange15]

How many are we gonna win boys?

6 + bowl.

 

[InVOLuntary]

5 I'm disappointed.
6 I'm good but not crowning anyone.
7 I'm feeling a little cocky
8 time to smack talk the big boys

I like it. What about 9?

 

[SergeantVol]

How many are we gonna win boys?

7 without a bowl