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sounds like the OL just isn't getting it mentally. one thing to see it replayed on tape or ona chalk board...another to see it and understand it as it's happening on the field. doesn't sound like the translation from prep to execution is happening. hate to hear that about Carvin. have high hopes for him.

until that gets fixed (and by fixed for this year i mean, just be serviceable), not much is going to change.
 
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I don’t think Clemson gets mowed down either but you can’t gloss over domination of LSU on their own turf.... even if that’s just what they do year in year out. Still counts.
the problem with Clemson is going to be the QB. Lawrence has all the talent you want, but he's young, and that Bama defense is feeling itself right now. and they'll just get better from here.

and while i think clemsons front can match up with basically anyone....the problem with Bama is it only takes one mistake to equal 6 points. i just don't see anyone "shutting them down" so to speak. even Clemson.

will kind of get a glimpse of that this weekend wiht MSU. really like their front as well. but i still think Bama lights them up when it's all said and done.
 
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Outside of LSU, Bama ain’t played nobody.

This isn’t your big brother’s SEC.
Bama has played some good teams it's just they're basically an NFL team so it doesn't look fair.

Clemson is great but the rest of that conference isn't as good as the rest of the SEC. Not sure why this is even an argument. Tennessee would be 6-3 or 7-2 with NCSU's schedule. And they would be 3-6 with ours.
 
Yea but with Mahomes they can score 40 anytime it feels like. Even though they lost, the way they played at New England showed me they are legit.

It may be different but remember that team beat the Pats last year with Alex Smith looking like an MVP candidate only to lose to the Titans when it mattered the most
 
We keep reading the OL is struggling because of misses assignments. That is on coaching imo. That doesn't fit the narrative of those guys just suck
 
Bama has played some good teams it's just they're basically an NFL team so it doesn't look fair.

Clemson is great but the rest of that conference isn't as good as the rest of the SEC. Not sure why this is even an argument. Tennessee would be 6-3 or 7-2 with NCSU's schedule. And they would be 3-6 with ours.
Outside of Bama, LSU, and UGA the conference has been garbage this year. UF, UK, and A&M have just been okay.
 
Bama has played some good teams it's just they're basically an NFL team so it doesn't look fair.

Clemson is great but the rest of that conference isn't as good as the rest of the SEC. Not sure why this is even an argument. Tennessee would be 6-3 or 7-2 with NCSU's schedule. And they would be 3-6 with ours.
I’m not arguing the ACC is better. The SEC simply isn’t the head and shoulders juggernaut it was 5-10 years ago.
 
Bama has played some good teams it's just they're basically an NFL team so it doesn't look fair.

Clemson is great but the rest of that conference isn't as good as the rest of the SEC. Not sure why this is even an argument. Tennessee would be 6-3 or 7-2 with NCSU's schedule. And they would be 3-6 with ours.
I think there are very few teams in the country (including most in the top 25) who would have a winning record with our schedule.
 
We keep reading the OL is struggling because of misses assignments. That is on coaching imo. That doesn't fit the narrative of those guys just suck

Definitely plays a part but I think also just not being able to physically do what we want them to do is part of it too. Along with so much moving around due to injuries.

Tatum wasn't even in conversation 3 wks ago. Niehuas was supposed to retire before this yr and is one of our better options. Jahmir been battling injury. Johnson needs more strength. Locklear injured and undersized. Richmond not consistent enough but more consistent than he used to be. Carvin was rushed and typically a kid you redshirt. Hall is limited.

OL would have been much different if we never lost Kennedy and then Smith imo. Been musical chairs since as one injury throws it all off.

I think COaching is still a question mark at that position but I also think it's not fair to completely judge yet and it's showed signs of improvement outside of Charlotte. We have actually been pretty solid in pass pro most of the season but some of JG hits are so brutal in hides it makes it look worse.

I also question our TE coaching. They are responsible for a lot of the busts.

At the end of the day I think Helton schemes around it enough to give us a chance to win based on auburn and SC gameplans.
 
We keep reading the OL is struggling because of misses assignments. That is on coaching imo. That doesn't fit the narrative of those guys just suck
some kids just don't get it. if eveyrone could do it, they'd all be doing it. the mental aptitude to understand the game, and how to execute is as much a part of "talent" as is size, speed, wingspan etc, etc, etc.....there's a reason players wash out as they move up a level, despite all the physical ability in the world that they may possess. you see it more easily at other positions like QB, but OL have to understand a whole lot, and they have to understand not only what they're doing, but what the rest of them are doing. and what they are going to do if something changes pre snap, assuming they all know what they're looking at pre snap, and how to respond appropriately.

throw in the fact that nearly all of these offensive linemen haven't been developed physically to play the style they're being asked, in a system they weren't recruited to play in, and i can see the curve being steep.

OL is and always has been a developmental position. it's the excepiton, not the rule, that guys come in and are plug and play. and that's especially evident in a situation like ours where everything they're being asked to do is a lot different than what the last staff trained them to do.

i'm not ready to put this all on the coaching at this point. no one should be. i doubt seriously that these issues are going unaddressed during the week.
 
Anyone know what to make of us looking at and even offering all these 2 star runningbacks?

Seems kind of odd considering we’re supposedly positioned well with Gray. Plus in the running for Crouch and Davis. Also having Beasley committed.
 
sounds like the OL just isn't getting it mentally. one thing to see it replayed on tape or ona chalk board...another to see it and understand it as it's happening on the field. doesn't sound like the translation from prep to execution is happening. hate to hear that about Carvin. have high hopes for him.

until that gets fixed (and by fixed for this year i mean, just be serviceable), not much is going to change.
Only small positive is it’s possible at any point in time things finally click for them.
 
Anyone know what to make of us looking at and even offering all these 2 star runningbacks?

Seems kind of odd considering we’re supposedly positioned well with Gray. Plus in the running for Crouch and Davis. Also having Beasley committed.
Looks like we've only offered DJ Williams. The others are just visiting. Senior film is out and plenty of kids around the country aren't big time recruits until they have film senior season, happens every year. Our staff clearly isn't going to just sit on their hands in recruiting and rely on guys like Woody Wommack to tell them who's good. They're always looking for the best players to sign and clearly they want another RB in this class.

Also, DJ Williams won't be a two star for long with Auburn and UT offering yesterday and schools like UF, UGA and others close to offering.
 
Only small positive is it’s possible at any point in time things finally click for them.
i just think for what we're doing, and who we're doing it with, and with all the position changing we've had to do due to injury etc....it's a lot to learn, and be really good. plus they aren't where they need to be physically, and most have had to play out of position this year for one reason or another.

i think getting the right #'s at OL will help so you can rep the same position iwth the same group of 5 is important.

ideally, trey can come back, Kennedy can come back and you add 5 or 6 OL in this class, 2 or 3 of which will most defintely be asked to play right away, and then you can actually start to build some cohesiveness on the OL.

we don't have that, and haven't really in a few years, and until we do, i don't see much changing.
 
Bama has played some good teams it's just they're basically an NFL team so it doesn't look fair.

Clemson is great but the rest of that conference isn't as good as the rest of the SEC. Not sure why this is even an argument. Tennessee would be 6-3 or 7-2 with NCSU's schedule. And they would be 3-6 with ours.
We're 5-4 at best playing their schedule IMO
 
Bama has played some good teams it's just they're basically an NFL team so it doesn't look fair.

Clemson is great but the rest of that conference isn't as good as the rest of the SEC. Not sure why this is even an argument. Tennessee would be 6-3 or 7-2 with NCSU's schedule. And they would be 3-6 with ours.

They were supposed to play WVU so assuming that’s a L.

Clemson- L
Boston college- L
Syracuse- L

And i think Virginia and FSU are toss ups but being optimistic we win those.
 
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