Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

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I think it’s certainly possible more came out.

One of the reports on the Briarcrest stuff I read said there’s a Facebook group these women are in that has roughly 20 members. The sole purpose is a support group to discuss this stuff.

So, only three women were willing to talk on the record - and I’m not saying you have to believe them at their word. But it is certainly possible that there’s more stuff out there.

I think I read about the FB group as well. UT needed to dig as hard as they could before they pulled this string no doubt. He's not the typical background check.
 
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I honestly think Enos is only good as a QB coach. Kitchens is unknown. Idk where we turn if we dont get Freeze.
 
If you have no issue with an adult male making a female minor that he has power and influence over take her shirt off in front of him in a private room then I have nothing more to say to you.
So if we hire Freeze does that mean ur turning in ur Volnation rights?
 
It's possible that she was too embarrassed and scared to tell anyone at the time.

Well, I guess she could have been scared her folks would whoop her butt for wearing a disallowed shirt to school in the first place. She most likely had to sneak it out of the house in order to wear it to school, putting it on once she got there.
 
Kendall Briles waiting by the phone like

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No offense intended, but I think everybody who is actively following this thread at this point has seen that. The worst allegation in that article is that one time he made a girl change shirts (to comply with dress code) in his office. If true, I find that entirely inappropriate, but importantly, it is not clear whether he was watching or whether the corner where she supposedly changed did give some privacy, etc.

But more to the point, Kingston specifically said there is more about Briarcrest than is known publicly. That’s what I’m talking about — if so, tell us. If all you’ve got is the shirt-changing story, then don’t act like there’s a whole trove of stories of sex abuse.
It matters not at all if he was looking or not, if there was privacy in the corner or not. If that really happened, I don't want him here.
 
Don't understand why he hasn't been considered, he's a brilliant offensive mind
that has more baggage than Freeze.

EDIT: probably would have been better stated to say "as much" vs. "more"....
 
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This is shaping up to be another Gruden fiasco. All UT coaching searches set up the same way it seems. An insider claiming he knows something, an insider claiming we have a high profile target but can’t say who. And a sect of the main stream media that seems to believe it is possible. The only difference is there is some who believe Freeze to be possible, but not probable.

Don’t get me wrong, I hope we go big. I am for Freeze as long as the high school allegations check out. But until UT actually does something big. I will not believe any rumor until they have been announced by VQ or another reputable media outlet.

It is fun to hope, but things like this is why everyone makes fun of us.

Chris Low is friends with Fulmer. I would think anything he says has some truth to it.
 
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I swear these coaching searching are great examples of swarm behavior. You get someone posting something cryptic, folks trying to read between the lines, folks saying "I'm hearing things", and everyone starts wearing out their f5 keys.

Then nothing. Then despair.

Then someone posts something cryptic.
 
Kitchens is unknown.

For goodness sakes, does anyone actually think Kitchens is going to leave the NFL for a college job? He's been in the NFL since 2006, IIRC. The only reason he's mentioned is because Kitchens and Pruitt know each other from their playing days. Just lazy media conjecture.
 
I swear these coaching searching are great examples of swarm behavior. You get someone posting something cryptic, folks trying to read between the lines, folks saying "I'm hearing things", and everyone starts wearing out their f5 keys.

Then nothing. Then despair.

Then someone posts something cryptic.

100% truth
 
So you believe every accusation made against someone? People like you are why good men have their lives ruined with lies

Each case is different. Neither of us have enough information at this point to know if the allegations are true. Would you rather that people did not assume something inappropriate occurred and did not investigate an accusation?
 
For goodness sakes, does anyone actually think Kitchens is going to leave the NFL for a college job? He's been in the NFL since 2006, IIRC. The only reason he's mentioned is because Kitchens and Pruitt know each other from their playing days. Just lazy media conjecture.

Don't know him but probably not. Especially if browns are smart enough to hire his mentor Arians
 
Each case is different. Neither of us have enough information at this point to know if the allegations are true. Would you rather that people did not assume something inappropriate occurred and did not investigate an accusation?
No. Context is important for above post. I think I’ve been very clear where I stand on the vetting process today
 
If you have no issue with an adult male making a female minor that he has power and influence over take her shirt off in front of him in a private room then I have nothing more to say to you.

Sounds like the whole thing is out of context. Did she have a tank top on or another shirt? I don’t just see him being like hey take your shirt off and just have your bra on and nothing ever have happened?
 
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It matters not at all if he was looking or not, if there was privacy in the corner or not. If that really happened, I don't want him here.

It makes a difference if Freeze stepped out of his office while she changed it, no? Or if, as someone else mentioned, she had a shirt on underneath the offending t-shirt, right? We just don’t know the facts.
 
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