Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

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Crazy Ivan said:
If you are hiring a HC, true, as we all know too well. But if you look at the 3 OCs that Stoops has had at UK - Gran, Neal Brown, and Shannon Dawson- all 3 had lethargic offenses there, but have wide open offenses wherever else they have been. The common denominator there is Stoops, same as Butch was the common denominator at UT.
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Except Neal Brown’s and Dawson’s offenses showed improvement from year one to year two. Eddie Gran’s have gotten worse with an elite rb
 
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LouderVol said:
wut?

Chaney isn't know for utilizing a mobile QB. Any improvements Hurts would make under Chaney JG would too.

Shrout probably moved up because McBridge was leaving. and moving to 3rd isn't threatening the starter. if he had moved to 2 you would have an argument.
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The one comment on Shrout that sticks out came from Pruitt. He said that Shrout "anticipates throws" the best of any of them. That included JG. That included McBride. That included KC.

It also happens to be a trait that the most successful QB's have in common. It isn't the only thing a QB needs but is one that the very good QB's have. JG has not demonstrated that he can do it with any kind of consistency. That's part of the reason UT doesn't often throw some patterns with JG like slants and seams.
 
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BruinVol said:
You guys sure are in love with stats when it comes to evaluating an OC.
You loved Yurcich who was 6-6 and don't like E.G. Who won 10.

OC stats mean nothing if you can't win .
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Complementary football. We know an explosive OC is needed to compliment our dominating DC. I love what Stoops has done at UK, but he’s got to score another step up the rung or all that work at Kentucky will amount to nothing. He’s never gonna overshadow the BB team.
 
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LouderVol said:
yes, but not to 2. we saw Chryst wasn't that good, the potential wasn't enough there. no reason to think he takes JGs spot just for moving from 4 to 3.
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Nothing except that JG hasn't locked the position down after two different staffs have tried to work with him. I won't say that the guy can't suddenly have some epiphany and "get it". But UT can't move forward with him being late with his decisions and mediocre at best in his reads.

I don't have the foggiest idea how good Shrout is. He may be awful. We haven't seen anything to draw an opinion. The reason to "think" he could take the position has a lot more to do with JG.
 
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Crazy Ivan said:
If you are hiring a HC, true, as we all know too well. But if you look at the 3 OCs that Stoops has had at UK - Gran, Neal Brown, and Shannon Dawson- all 3 had lethargic offenses there, but have wide open offenses wherever else they have been. The common denominator there is Stoops, same as Butch was the common denominator at UT.
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Agree. However, mid-major success seems much easier to come by and doesn't seem to be very indicative of success when coaching against the best of the best.
 
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hahahahaha! GA fans think they wanted to let Chaney go and now they're out here offering Gran!!!!

Pruitt be like:

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LouderVol said:
yes, but not to 2. we saw Chryst wasn't that good, the potential wasn't enough there. no reason to think he takes JGs spot just for moving from 4 to 3.
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Christ wasn't very good, but he was far more decisive then guarantano. That's why he was able to quickly drive for two scores against Bama. Unfortunately Babel was then able to make a quick adjustment and the rally was over
 
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