Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

[RiotVol]

Comparing projected starters:

View attachment 204750

Edited to add age of players.

Now this is interesting.

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

Ubben on JJ Peterson

Give him time. It’s been a difficult start, yes. He spent all last summer focused on academics and showed up just before the season in what was quite obviously not good shape. And he was behind a bit this spring on mastering the defense mentally, plus he was battling some injuries that had him limited a little bit and in pain throughout spring.

That’s difficult for anyone, but especially for a teenager who’s used to dominating and being the man every time he steps on the field. It’s not an unfamiliar story, and it’s one that requires a level of recalibration.

In some ways, this kind of spotlight is unfair to him and any true freshman who shows up on campus, especially one who did so under the circumstances he did. His sudden disappearance in the final few spring practices and the spring game raised a lot of red flags, but I’ve been told that was related to an injury. Does that injury lead to other things that impede his progress? We’ll see. I’m sure he’s more frustrated than fans are. Going from high school to college can be a difficult transition for any human, but especially so when a player works really hard to get there and then shows up and life just gets harder.

So, no, you’re at least 18-24 months away from being able to fairly call him a recruiting bust. Give him some time.

 

[GoVolsDR]

I, like hopefully everyone else, gradually, with increasing experience, figured out the best way that I could make things work for me. In the latter years of my career I was often asked to mentor younger (and sometimes older) employees of the client corperation and that was what I stressed the most. Figure out what works best for you to get the job done successfully. You can watch what I do but the way I do things and the way I work with people may not be what’s right for you. The number one rule when working with people is to be authentic. No one respects a fake. Learn from a lot of different people and then when you find what fits you and it works, you should do fine.

This is great advice if you want to be a business leader. Whether you're tasked to lead a group, or you're leading by example, you need to understand how do you best utilize your teammates' different skillsets and personality styles to achieve your mission objective. In my experience you do that by empowering your teammates, utilizing identified best practices, and engaging others around you as your equal. Shine the spotlight on the successes of others, and leaders never take credit for the accomplishments of others. Stay humble, be accountable, be approachable, be transparent, and have an open mind. Leaders eat last, and I think that Pruitt has all of the leadership qualities that we would want to see in someone that you think could eventually be extremely successful. He's been mentored by 3 CEOs who have an intimate knowledge of the business landscape he's operating in, and at this point he just needs to find out what works for him.

What really impressed me about Pruitt was before he even coached a game, was the difference in feedback from recruits. Common refrains from recruits about Pruitt, and his team, are that the coaches here are "real" and are about "business". Authenticity is one of the most important aspects of leadership, and it either comes across or it doesn't. When you come across as fake or inauthentic, you lose all credibility and your chances of winning the business are shot.

Bad leaders let power go to their heads, and we can all think of a certain intern wearing crimson who is the perfect example of someone who was never ready for any real meaningful leadership. I think this is why so many of us never bought into what the intern was selling, and what did it for me was reliance on jargon and cliches. When I hear people talk about synergy or negative feedback loops, I tune out right away, just as I tuned out due to all the bricks and trash cans. If I'm talking to a salesman about his SaaS platform's new benchmarking synergies aren't going to solve my very specific business problem of enabling my sales team to do their best, and you can't articulate how your platform isn't siloed and can't explain how it interfaces with enterprise CRMs. I ended the meeting right there. It's just like how the intern's bricks and trash cans could solve his very specific problem of not recruiting SEC caliber athletes.

One last point I'll make is that effective leaders know how to delegate, and here again is where I'm seeing Pruitt grow as a leader. Bringing in Chaney and staying hands off from the offense is a sign of maturity, and something I really like. A CEO shouldn't need to be actively taking part and Agile and Scrum new product development meetings. This is going to allow Pruitt to do more as a CEO, and let his team grow together. Thus far, I'd argue that Pruitt has been tracking at plan in terms of overall results, and I'd argue that he's exceeding his KPIs with recruiting from Q1 2018 through YTD. I think that Pruitt has a group of coaches he really likes, and there's an inflection point coming soon.

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

Love the comparison but I was talking about Helton.

My guess was Pruitt wanted an offense very capable of a run game, just not at the expense of production. Helton seems 'aim to please' and went further than Pruitt intended.

Think both guys will do fine, personalities were just a bad combo. Helton would do better with a less strong/intimidating boss and Pruitt needs a Chaney that will shoot straight with him.
Nothing more.

I’m liking Chaney. Gotta love a coach who will BS and crack jokes but be serious when he needs to be. Players appreciate that, it is why Niedmeyer (probably botched the spelling) is liked so much.

 

[chargervol]

I’m liking Chaney. Gotta love a coach who will BS and crack jokes but be serious when he needs to be. Players appreciate that, it is why Niedmeyer (probably botched the spelling) is liked so much.

I think it's a perfect hire for what Pruitt and the team needed. What you said plus
1. Adjusts to talent
2. Excells in getting the ball out quickly
3. Commands respect.
4. Capable of taking a significant load off of Pruitt's shoulders.

That's a lot of needed, boxes checked.

 

[Sleegro]

Love the comparison but I was talking about Helton.

My guess was Pruitt wanted an offense very capable of a run game, just not at the expense of production. Helton seems 'aim to please' and went further than Pruitt intended.

Think both guys will do fine, personalities were just a bad combo. Helton would do better with a less strong/intimidating boss and Pruitt needs a Chaney that will shoot straight with him.
Nothing more.

This seems accurate

 

[Kingston Vol]

Love the comparison but I was talking about Helton.

My guess was Pruitt wanted an offense very capable of a run game, just not at the expense of production. Helton seems 'aim to please' and went further than Pruitt intended.

Think both guys will do fine, personalities were just a bad combo. Helton would do better with a less strong/intimidating boss and Pruitt needs a Chaney that will shoot straight with him.
Nothing more.

It seems like Pruitt learned a lot about about himself in the last 12 months. He’s become a lot more comfortable in the role.

 

[Darth_Shiveman]

Hmm yes I'm afraid so. I never got how Helton, from the Brohm school of thought, turned in that kind of work. But I also think he was young and probably bent to Pruitt's will. Chaney will not. And I think Pruitt will trust him to do his own thing.

Helton had also never really been in full control of an offense. Given some of our personnel issues, I think it was overwhelming for him in a lot of ways.

 

[chargervol]

It seems like Pruitt learned a lot about about himself in the last 12 months. He’s become a lot more comfortable in the role.

Agree 100%.
An understanding of being a master at a trade instead of the proverbial "jack of all" could end up being his biggest step forward.

Delegating more and focusing on his main task could be almost as important as getting needed talent.
No guarantees but it appears to be going the right direction imo.

 

[jakez4ut]

Agree 100%.
An understanding of being a master at a trade instead of the proverbial "jack of all" could end up being his biggest step forward.

Delegating more and focusing on his main task could be almost as important as getting needed talent.
No guarantees but it appears to be going the right direction imo.

he's gonna have to continue on that progression, because i'd imagine that at some point in the not all that distant future, he'll have to be retooling that staff again as guys move on to hopefully bigger jobs. so he's gonna have to keep a pretty good eye on the big picture.

as a "manager" at that level, maybe the most important job he has to keep himself surrounded by good people that are really good at what they do...and fit with what he's trying to accomplish, year in and year out.

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

Don’t know about you all but I’m excited.



#offthechain

 

[bignewt]

Don’t know about you all but I’m excited.



#offthechain

fyre about to be FYRE

 

[UT = Checkmate]

Don’t know about you all but I’m excited.



#offthechain

Can’t wait.

 

[chargervol]

he's gonna have to continue on that progression, because i'd imagine that at some point in the not all that distant future, he'll have to be retooling that staff again as guys move on to hopefully bigger jobs. so he's gonna have to keep a pretty good eye on the big picture.

as a "manager" at that level, maybe the most important job he has to keep himself surrounded by good people that are really good at what they do...and fit with what he's trying to accomplish, year in and year out.

Dabo keeping his guys relatively intact, is so unlikely these days. VS Saban being forced into the continuous mercenary replacements. Huge in recent results imo.

As you said, very likely Pruitt will have to do replacements often enough, given the talent he gets. He'll miss on occasion but hopefully gets it right way more often.

 

[Sleegro]

Dabo keeping his guys relatively intact, is so unlikely these days. VS Saban being forced into the continuous mercenary replacements. Huge in recent results imo.

As you said, very likely Pruitt will have to do replacements often enough, given the talent he gets. He'll miss on occasion but hopefully gets it right way more often.

Saban kept his staff mostly intact until recently. Kirby was there for like 84 years.

 

[jakez4ut]

Don’t know about you all but I’m excited.



#offthechain

L O freaking L.

 

[jakez4ut]

Dabo keeping his guys relatively intact, is so unlikely these days. VS Saban being forced into the continuous mercenary replacements. Huge in recent results imo.

As you said, very likely Pruitt will have to do replacements often enough, given the talent he gets. He'll miss on occasion but hopefully gets it right way more often.

yeah, he made those rounds of changes when he brought in whats his name from OU, had to replace Dan Brooks cause he retired, and Chip when he left for SMU....but yeah, he's been able to keep that staff together, the core of it, for a good little while now.

really reminds you of what Fulmer was able to do here back in the old days...lol.

i think Pruitt has a core like that on this staff. no sure how many fancy themselves HC's aside from Ansley and martin....but i would imagine that both of those guys are desinted for bigger roles in the future for sure....and who knows how the analyst staff changes, who gets promoted etc....but that's a good place to build a bench for sure. that worked for Saban for a while.

 

[Kingston Vol]

Agree 100%.
An understanding of being a master at a trade instead of the proverbial "jack of all" could end up being his biggest step forward.

Delegating more and focusing on his main task could be almost as important as getting needed talent.
No guarantees but it appears to be going the right direction imo.

It’s his first time being the boss in his entire professional career. There were going to be growing pains.

Some of the staff issues last year I don’t think he was expecting and it caught him off guard. Sounds like someone got to him and told him to take a step back and run his defense - and there are very few in the world better than him at that.

 

[chargervol]

Saban kept his staff mostly intact until recently. Kirby was there for like 84 years.

That's my point. The timeline of Bama's continuous turnover and Clemson's success against them, align pretty well, imo.

 

[Vfl2407]

Don’t know about you all but I’m excited.



#offthechain

Someone please interpret for me what this means. Edits off the chain? I’m too old to get it.

 

[JohnnyD1024]

Also Nkamhoua is now a 4 star on 247

 

[chargervol]

It’s his first time being the boss in his entire professional career. There were going to be growing pains.

Some of the staff issues last year I don’t think he was expecting and it caught him off guard. Sounds like someone got to him and told him to take a step back and run his defense - and there are very few in the world better than him at that.

Could be. Like I said, just my opinion but I think Helton's "desire to please" exaggerated things. Of course Pruitt made some mistakes, everyone does. But I think Helton's "quirk" made Pruitt's management look worse than it actually was.

They were friends and familiar with one another but working together is entirely different. Can't be certain until you're "in the trenches" together.

 

[ChismsHeadband]

Don’t know about you all but I’m excited.



#offthechain

What a dildo

 

[Orange Studs]

Mom can't remember she ate immediately after we've eaten. She can't remember anything 2 minutes removed from it. Her short term is completely gone. She can't sit still. If she's out she wants to go home. The minute she walks in the door of her house, she wants to know where they're going. She absolutely wears my dad out. My dad gets relief by taking her to daycare three days a week.

She's starting to forget the people close to her. I have to remind her that I'm her son. Sometimes she thinks I'm her husband. It's a sad deal.

Invol, I haven't been on much lately cause dad has gotten worse and is falling a lot more now. When standing you have to hang on to him until he gets his balance. He is in The Lantern Facilities and it is so depressing when you go in there. They all sit around and sleep most the time and have no clue like my dad who anyone is that comes to visit. Watching your dad slowly dwindle away has to be the hardest thing in the world to do. I will say Hospice is a good thing cause they take so much off of you. They will evaluate your mom and if they feel that she has reached a certain stage they take over the care part. It took a lot off my mom and me. Just busy taking care of both of them right now. I come on and read to kept up just don't have a lot of time to post right now. Praying for your mom and mostly for your dad cause as Hospice told me and my mom, "we see the care person go before the mate who has the disease" so please watch over your dad. GBO!! Love my VN Bros!

 

[LA Vol]

I feel for everyone dealing with Alzheimers. It's such a destructive disease and devastating for every member of the family. Sending positive thoughts and good energy to all of you.