Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

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HankHill said:
Yea you could make the case he’s the best AD in college athletics ever.

2 national title winning football coaches
1 national title winning basketball coach
1 national title winning baseball coach.
1 national title winning softball coach


I’m sure they have probably won something in track, volleyball, soccer, swimming etc too
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I'll just say I'm glad he retired.
 
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McGeesPub said:
If it’s spot on, I see no reason it should not be written. All the passionate defense of Butch was pretty comical, and it showed just how much of a tribal mentality some people have.
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Pfft, I don't care if they write it but they need to come with something more than "un-named source".

"Just trust the media's word" is a tall order. And yeah, probably a bad move on his part regardless of accuracy.
 
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HankHill said:
This is true. Billy Donovan and Sullivan in baseball too right?
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I guess you have to give him credit for Donovan in hindsight. But it really is more luck than anything else. Donovan coached at Marshall for 2 years, had a winning record, but didn’t make the NCAAT. His resume was no better than Buzz Peterson, Cuonzo Martin, or even Donnie Tyndall. Just got lucky that it worked out.
 
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NEGATIVE QUESTION disclaimer.

After our 2015 comeback against UGA, a player said they weren't worried about getting behind GA 24-3 because it was from our mistakes - fumbles at the goal line and so on. Said "we were able to move the ball on them all day". Not comforting now.
They lost a significant lead and we all know Pruitt was their DC for that and I'd say Dobbs was the difference maker.

2017 - talk was that mobile QBs were Bama's only weakness. Wasn't enough to stop them, but was mentioned often.

Dual threat is the thing these days, everyone confident that Pruitt having previous struggles against DTs is of no concern?
 
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chargervol said:
NEGATIVE QUESTION disclaimer.

After our 2015 comeback against UGA, a player said they weren't worried about getting behind GA 24-3 because it was from our mistakes - fumbles at the goal line and so on. Said "we were able to move the ball on them all day". Not comforting now.
They lost a significant lead and we all know Pruitt was their DC for that and I'd say Dobbs was the difference maker.

2017 - talk was that mobile QBs were Bama's only weakness. Wasn't enough to stop them, but was mentioned often.

Dual threat is the thing these days, everyone confident it's no concern?
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You need to QB that can move the chains by running at least a couple times a game. JG can do that. He’s not super fast but he can get 7-10 yards on a scramble. Hopefully Chaney will be rolling him out of the pocket a lot
 
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HankHill said:
Yea it’s really crazy looking back on it. So many people talk about how butch brought his Mac Level staff and stuff but his first staff was very strong and they had a chip on their shoulder recruiting and were all about the grind.

Butch got in trouble when he swung big with hires like Hoke, Shoop, warren etc and they never had a chemistry.
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Achilles heel was always Don Mahoney. He couldn’t coach his way out of a paper bag. Willie Martinez was always a liability as well. His first fire/replacement should have always been Don Mahoney.

To think we had Pittman before 😳
 
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scvolfan7 said:
You need to QB that can move the chains by running at least a couple times a game. JG can do that. He’s not super fast but he can get 7-10 yards on a scramble. Hopefully Chaney will be rolling him out of the pocket a lot
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The question was about our defense.
Dobbs burned Pruitt's defense at Ga. Bama struggled some with Mobile QBs while Pruitt was there.

Is that a concern with his defense, now?
 
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UpstateVol613 said:
Achilles heel was always Don Mahoney. He couldn’t coach his way out of a paper bag. Willie Martinez was always a liability as well. His first fire/replacement should have always been Don Mahoney.

To think we had Pittman before 😳
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Dont get the pittman love. is he a good recruiter or something? conversely ive never understood the Will Friend love.
 
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I know some are natural born salesmen bit it is crazy how great a few really are. I mean there's only so many things you can say to these kids.
NFL, family environment, playing time...(here's your money) yet, some make that same pitch levels above others.
 
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jackcrevol said:
Dont get the pittman love. is he a good recruiter or something? conversely ive never understood the Will Friend love.
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Great recruiter but he didn’t get there immediately. His prize when he left UT was a flip from us Dan Skipper. Big giant lumbering OT who was limited physically but a star in that Arkansas offense coordinated by Chaney. His previous reputation and what he started bringing to the Hogs led to him being gradually able to get an invite to any big ugly’s home. And as those big uglies got higher rated and he moved on to UGA, you have your current incarnation of Sam Pittman. He can’t coach mediocre or less linemen to All-Pro status...no OL coach can. But he can coach college level standouts to their full potential...so can Friend. It only takes a couple or more kids going to the NFL standing behind our guy for him to call any recruit and land a visit. And did you mean Friend HATE?
 
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chargervol said:
The question was about our defense.
Dobbs burned Pruitt's defense at Ga. Bama struggled some with Mobile QBs while Pruitt was there.

Is that a concern with his defense, now?
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Oh I got ya. Very good and Elite dual threat QBs are a concern for any defense Imo. Just have to hope you have athletes on the edge and at LB that can contain them.
 
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chargervol said:
NEGATIVE QUESTION disclaimer.

After our 2015 comeback against UGA, a player said they weren't worried about getting behind GA 24-3 because it was from our mistakes - fumbles at the goal line and so on. Said "we were able to move the ball on them all day". Not comforting now.
They lost a significant lead and we all know Pruitt was their DC for that and I'd say Dobbs was the difference maker.

2017 - talk was that mobile QBs were Bama's only weakness. Wasn't enough to stop them, but was mentioned often.

Dual threat is the thing these days, everyone confident that Pruitt having previous struggles against DTs is of no concern?
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DT is not just "the thing these days", it will forever be the best possible situation at QB. Yes it's a concern if we can't defend it and a concern if we aren't employing it.
 
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Devo182 said:
DT is not just "the thing these days", it will forever be the best possible situation at QB. Yes it's a concern if we can't defend it and a concern if we aren't employing it.
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Your stances are noted, but not what I asked. Of course it's a concern *if we can't defend it, the question is:
Do you think there is reason to believe Pruitt's defense *will struggle with DTs, given the events I mentioned.
 
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chargervol said:
The question was about our defense.
Dobbs burned Pruitt's defense at Ga. Bama struggled some with Mobile QBs while Pruitt was there.

Is that a concern with his defense, now?
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I don’t know how you want to read this but this table shows the rushing performance of the quarterbacks we faced last year compared to the total rushing offense we faced. I thought it was interesting that 57% of all the yards gained by quarterbacks, not net, gained, were on their single long run. I don’t know if it was a scramble or a run by design. Obviously, Locksley, Hurts, Fields, and Wilson, I think would qualify as dual threats. Another interesting note would be that while quarterbacks were credited with almost 17% of all rushing attempts against us last year they collectively accounted for less than 7% of the net rushing yards we allowed. Note: Fromm & Fields stats are combined to compared against the total rushing for UGA as are Hurts and Tua’s for Bama. Clearly, we have very limited data so I’m not sure if you can infer anything from this but if you were going to anyway, I’d say I think we’ve probably got this covered. We may give up a run here or there but we haven’t yet seen a DT QB have 10-15 rushing attempts in a game and put up a hundred yards or so. I think maybe Bryant at Missouri may try that this year. So, we’ll see. I personally think if he does try it Darrell Taylor is going to WHFA. jmo.

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ChattaTNVol said:
I don’t how you want to read this but this table shows the rushing performance of the quarterbacks we faced last year compared to the total rushing offense we faced. I thought it was interesting that 57% of all the yards gained by quarterbacks, not net, gained, were on their single long run. I don’t know if it was a scramble or a run by design. Obviously, Locksley, Hurts, Fields, and Wilson, I think would qualify as dual threats. Another interesting note would be that while quarterbacks were credited with almost 17% of all rushing attempts against us last year they collectively accounted for less than 7% of the net rushing yards we allowed. Note: Fromm & Fields stats are combined to compared against the total rushing for UGA as are Hurts and Tua’s for Bama. Clearly, we have very limited data so I’m not sure if you can infer anything from this but if you were going to anyway, I’d say I think we’ve probably got this covered. We may give up a run here or there but we haven’t yet seen a DT QB have 10-15 rushing attempts in a game and put up a hundred yards or so. I think maybe Bryant at Missouri may try that this year. So, we’ll see. I personally think if he does try it Darrell Taylor is going to WHFA. jmo.

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I think it's great. We don't know every detail but it absolutely gives an idea.

I'm not sure what, if anything, has changed since the 15 game. Or if the QB himself was even the one that gained the yards, either at Bama or with Dobbs.
Or was there any accounting by Pruitt, for the mobile QBs, that made it easier for the rest of the offense?

I've been wondering since we hired Pruitt tbh. Just curious as to why we were "able to move the ball all day long". UGA had talent and a huge lead, what made it so doable against that defense..?
 
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I wonder if that article that came out about Pruitt going to bama is causing recruiting issues for us. At this point, I’m just grasping
 
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