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[engineerVOL]

@Weezer will never believe it

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Not to be a ball buster but South Lake Tahoe and long beach are about 8 hours from each other

There is no freaking way you get from Long Beach to Reno in just 8 hours.

 

[engineerVOL]

Vols vs ESPN... A way of life.

I think he saw the column of games played (12) and assumed he was tied with Hyatt that he knew was in the lead. Which makes him more of an idiot than an a$$ but more than likely he’s both.

 

[swchandler1988]

There is no freaking way you get from Long Beach to Reno in just 8 hours.

lol GPS said that, never made the drive. I was immediately wrong in regards to what I was responding to

 

[Dadof2volfans]

Unless the rules are changed that prevent us from playing fast on offense, we're golden. Saban tried to lobby the NCAA to keep fast pace offenses out of the game because he was concerned about injuries to his defenses players. What a wank . If our opponents have the horses to play press coverage, more power to them

I think our coach can and will adjust, he was successful at Mizzou and UCF he is not a one trick pony. Yes I’m dating myself be even saying that.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

54 attempts vs 392 attempts though.

I'm all in on giving Joe the keys and let's go, but I think trying to share his stats this season is misleading. He only started 1 game, the rest were 4th quarter mop up duties against 2nd stringers.

4 of 8 for 108 yards and a TD against South Carolina in meaningful minutes
11 of 21 for 147 yards and a TD against Vandy in his only start

Those yards against SC were in a little over 2/3s of one quarter, after coming into a desperate situation cold.

 

[AWVOL]

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C.J Stroud was 10/26 for 76 yards passing against Northwestern.

 

[butchna]

Where does the $ go if he doesn't sign?

Oregon had a very good first season with Lanning. First Dillingham bails for Arizona State and then some commits are teetering. Wonder if there’s a story behind the scenes?

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

lol GPS said that, never made the drive. I was immediately wrong in regards to what I was responding to

Lol...just getting out of LA takes forever. My little brother works for Space X and lives in Long Beach....I hate that place....mountains of garbage and homeless shanty/tent towns everywhere....it is disgusting.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

If Hooker hadn't missed his wide open shots against UGA then what are you saying?

Bottom line...despite a heavily rattled OL putting the offense behind the 8 ball all freaking day....we still should have hung 30+ on the best defense CFB money can buy..if Hooker just hits the open shots he did get.

Like I don't disagree with this statement.

But Hooker is one player and he went 23 of 33 for 69.7% against Georgia, the INT was a bad throw but he was playing well. Needed the rest of the team to step up a bit, WRs weren't getting off physical coverage enough, OL played badly all around (allowing pressure, penalties, and not getting anything going with the running game) and the defense just couldn't get off the field.


So could Hooker have done more, absolutely. But he was also already doing the most of anyone on the team. We really need some guys to step up outside the QB position to help this team make the next step of being in the CFP each season.

 

[VolNash17]

Like I don't disagree with this statement.

But Hooker is one player and he went 23 of 33 for 69.7% against Georgia, the INT was about throw but he was playing well. Needed the rest of the team to step up a bit, WRs weren't getting off physical coverage enough, OL played badly all around (allowing pressure, penalties, and not getting anything going with the running game) and the defense just couldn't get off the field.


So could Hooker have done more, absolutely. But he was also already doing the most of anyone on the team. We really need some guys to step up outside the QB position to help this team make the next step of being in the CFP each season.

I think if Tennessee keeps bringing in more talented players. Those margin of errors get bigger

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Those yards against SC were in a little over 2/3s of one quarter, after coming into a desperate situation cold.

And?

He missed at least 2 or 3 wide open WRs. Had Tillman for a TD at one point as well, you can't hold Hooker to a near perfect game expectation and then dismiss Milton's inaccuracy concerns in meaningful game minutes. Either that's the standard for any/every QB or it's not.

 

[butchna]

I think our coach can and will adjust, he was successful at Mizzou and UCF he is not a one trick pony. Yes I’m dating myself be even saying that.

You date yourself too much, and you’ll grow hair on your palms…before eventual blindness!

 

[VolNash17]

23’ class is a step in the right direction. It won’t be the best class under this staff. 24’ will be up there. As long as Tennessee can keep stacking these top 10’s together combined with the coaching and scheme I think we’ll be a tough out for most of anyone. We’ve had some recruiting momentum before but it’s fizzled out due to on field results and then HCs getting fired. Have a different feeling with the current staff

 

[Glocker_Alum_2005]

SIAP. QB1 at KY next season

 

[BaldBiker]

@Weezer

just because.

 

[Govolsman98]

SIAP. QB1 at KY next season

Awesome that guy is horrible

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Hartman doesn't play in the SEC. His stats wouldn't be that good if he did, and they aren't amazing now.

The point is that I doubt Hartman is any better than Joe, and Joe may not be our best QB by mid season.

Only thing I would say is that Hooker didn't play anywhere close to Hartmans level against that ACC competition....but look what Heupel did with him against SEC competition.

This is an intriguing possibility.

 

[BaldBiker]

SIAP. QB1 at KY next season

Next years 1st round draft pick QB gonna be out of Kentucky again.

 

[johnfnkelly]

So this may ruffle some of the VOL faithful feathers.

I know a couple sports writers and I’ve asked them recently what they thought about the VOLS this year and it seems like it’s lining up with what’s happening as far as the Polls, and other awards.

Seems as tho they think TN runs a gimmick offense and that defenses next year will shut down TN and we will go back to being a 6-7 win team. Was told they think CH offense won’t last and that teams will go back and watch the Ga and SC games and see how to play press coverage on D.

So there ya go. Just food for thought on what a couple of National guys think.

UGA spent 2 months prepping for our offense with the most talented, athletic and physical defense in the country and won by 14 @ their house.

They think Beamer figured this O out but Saban/ Stoops didn't?

If Heupel continues bringing in elite athletes like he is then it's going to elevate our O to new heights. New wrinkles. More versatility. This offense looked dramatically different from last year.

Heupel excels at putting players in positions to maximize their skill-sets. Think of all the after-thoughts Heupel completely transformed. Tillman, Velus, Hyatt, Fant, etc. The dude simply understands every players' skill-set is unique and knows how to unlock their potential. I mean, Jabari Small is a solid back, but I doubt he plays at the next level - on top of that he's been at best 80% healthy the last 2 years. He's totaled 1800 yards from scrimmage and 23 TD's in that time span. For reference - EG totaled 1600 yards/ 11 TD's in his 2 years at UT. Ty Chandler had 1500 yds/ 10 TD's in his 2nd/ 3rd year at UT. Two backs I think most argue are significantly more talented than Jabari. (nothing against him)

Warren has been a quality player in our system, but what will this O look like with an elite TE like Ethan Davis? An elite QB like Nico? An elite gadget like Seldon? I think this offense is going to continue to evolve as Heupel's career progresses.

 

[johnfnkelly]

Only thing I would say is that Hooker didn't play anywhere close to Hartmans level against that ACC competition....but look what Heupel did with him against SEC competition.

This is an intriguing possibility.

hot take: Hartman is a product of his system. Hooker didn't have a system at VT.

 

[Glitch]

SIAP. QB1 at KY next season

Levi's 2.0?

 

[Leeleesteeth]

SIAP. QB1 at KY next season

Wow. They went from Will Levis to a guy who throws a lot of interceptions.


Nevermind.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Based just on the QB situation, I don't think we can avoid a substantial step back next season. I haven't seen the schedule, but I'd think 7-8 wins would be about where we end up.

I think 7-8 is probable, but I don't think it is just because of reloading the QB. I think that is just one of several positions that will cause issues.

 

[Orange_Crush]

My man!


Loved that movie growing up

Excuse me, are you the singing bush?