Recruiting Forum Football Talk VI

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I agree. He makes $5 mill a year. It comes with the territory. He deserves great credit for lifting the program and their big wins. He and the team flunked the test last night. It's OK to say it IMO.

Playing small ball with bad outside shooting for more than half the game with nobody to stop Castleton even inserted in the lineup is not a recipe for success. Even us armchairs knew that before the game began. UF's entire O is dependent on going through and to him.

Fahr Barnes...he stupid coach..stupid coach must go

 

[volbeast33]

In summation...Barnes doesn't win big in March...so Fahr Barnes!

That is the end of that chain of thinking and I think it is f'n stupid...period.

Who said anything about firing Barnes….. that is your own insecurities coming out.

 

[Johnny Majors' Ghost]

 

[volbeast33]

 

[Weezer]

This is what A.I. thinks a "baby in a Tennessee market" looks like

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That kid looks pretty damn awesome!

 

[engineerVOL]

This is what A.I. thinks a "baby in a Tennessee market" looks like

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That baby has seen some stuff.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Who said anything about firing Barnes….. that is your own insecurities coming out.

Just followed your criticism to it's logical end...Only thing matters is March, Barnes doesn't win big in March...fahr Barnes!

 

[Glitch]

SIAP, but Jayden Rashada (former $10M Floriduh commit) looks to be heading to Arizona State.

Jaden Rashada ASU football commitment reaction: 'Huge recruiting win'

 

[TheMagnificantOne]

 

[Weezer]

SIAP, but Jayden Rashada (former $10M Floriduh commit) looks to be heading to Arizona State.

Jaden Rashada ASU football commitment reaction: 'Huge recruiting win'

Probably taking a huge pay cut. He should sue the Florida collective for backing out of the contract IMO.

 

[RikidyBones]

I'm still annoyed by the loss last night. This team, when they lose, gets absolutely punked.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Alec Abeln - Offensive Analyst - Staff Directory - University of Tennessee Athletics

 

[Glitch]

That baby has seen some stuff.

and probably been married and divorced at least 5 times.

 

[Weezer]

Said a few days ago this would be the hire. The writing was on the wall.

Everybody has to start somewhere. Heupel, Saban, Smart.... These guys didn't start out where they are. Abeln may work out just fine. Needs to recruit like a badass, tho. JMO.

Hard to worry about Heupel and offensive staff hires. That seems to be his wheelhouse.

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

I personally would love to throw the bank at Nate Oats when RB retires, he seems like he would fit the culture here

At least try

Really don't want Oats making Alabama a power in basketball for decades

 

[engineerVOL]

and probably been married and divorced at least 5 times.

Before or after he wrote three Billboard No. 1 Americana hits in the clink?

 

[BreatheUT]

So did the 2nd signing day come and go for the Vols in a whimper?

 

[Johnny Majors' Ghost]

In regards to the new TE coach I'm underwhelmed. Although I believe Heupel has built enough equity on the offensive side of the ball for fans to not be so skeptical about his coaching hires and decisions regarding that side of things. Pope was a great promotion and hopefully Abeln is as well.

 

[RikidyBones]

Said a few days ago this would be the hire. The writing was on the wall.

Everybody has to start somewhere. Heupel, Saban, Smart.... These guys didn't start out where they are. Abeln may work out just fine. Needs to recruit like a badass, tho. JMO.

Hard to worry about Heupel and offensive staff hires. That seems to be his wheelhouse.

Seems like he needs "his guys" and that kind of worries me long term. You end up reaching with that eventually

 

[MoCo_Vol]

For some reason I see Nate Oats taking a NBA gig.

Young guy, just been at it 8 years if he gets a shot I think he'd be interested in trying it out.

 

[LA Vol]

I'm not sure whether it's because we can't attract 3-4 5 stars every year or Barnes doesn't want 3-4 5 stars every year. Personally I like the way he's recruited. I've never thought marching out a new team every year because of all the one-dones would appeal to me. You never really get to know the players. I like it when the core of the team is made up of 3-4 year guys. I loved Chandler and the two before them (can't recall their names, haha) and I certainly don't begrudge them for leaving and getting that cash but I'll remember the grants, the admirals, and the Richardsons, for a long time as I will Vescovi, Plav, ON, JJJ, ZZ, etc..

Both. CRB likes to develop and grow his type of players. He's a relationship guy. Building a team around his core guys and filling in with coachable, high-ceiling short-timers like Chandler is pretty much his comfort level. UT hasn't been able to consistently land the top players-- and some of them aren't willing to do what CRB demands-- so this has been a good foundational strategy.

Guys who buy in to what he wants love playing for him, and most of the players he brings in work hard to earn their spot. Fans love these players-- rootability is very high with the Grants, Admirals, Fulkersons and ZZs. Like you say, they won't be forgotten, and they're the ones who stay connected and come back to campus again and again.

 

[Johnny Majors' Ghost]

Both. CRB likes to develop and grow his type of players. He's a relationship guy. Building a team around his core guys and filling in with coachable, high-ceiling short-timers like Chandler is pretty much his comfort level. UT hasn't been able to consistently land the top players-- and some of them aren't willing to do what CRB demands-- so this has been a good foundational strategy.

Guys who buy in to what he wants love playing for him, and most of the players he brings in work hard to earn their spot. Fans love these players-- rootability is very high with the Grants, Admirals, Fulkersons and ZZs. Like you say, they won't be forgotten, and they're the ones who stay connected and come back to campus again and again.

Thoughts of the TE coach hire? Faris from UCLA just not a good interview?

 

[MoCo_Vol]

I mean...Jerry Mack and Alex Golesh weren't "his guys" until he hired them.

I think the fact Abeln played for Heupel and Glenn then became a GA and later OA with him is a positive. I can't really name a TE coach honestly...so I don't know who a "splash" hire would have been, seems smarter to hire a guy that's got years of experience with your staff and offense right?

 

[volinbama256]

everything is relative.

I bet if you ask the team that is out there playing the games and putting in the work, it matters and counts to them...

 

[Weezer]

Seems like he needs "his guys" and that kind of worries me long term. You end up reaching with that eventually

Loyalty is a double-edged sword. We saw what it did to Fulmer. But I'm not really concerned here, ATM. Heupel knows what he wants on offense. That's his wheelhouse. Would a known recruiter have been better? Maybe, but are there really any super recruiters that are TE coaches? Hopefully Abeln does fine as a recruiter.

Now, if there comes a point and time where it looks like a defensive coach needs to be replaced and loyalty keeps Heupel from making a move, then I'll be concerned. But we haven't quite reached that point, yet.