Recruiting Forum Football Talk VI

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They've already screwed up the rebuild by drafting Levis. There's no coming back from that. Might as well go down as spectacularly as possible.
The Arizona Cardinals have laid down a really solid blueprint for failing in spectacular fashion. Drafting Levis was a good first step for the Titans. Vegas' over/under for Cardinals wins this year is 4.5 games. Every analyst on talk show radio that I heard has (correctly) taken the under on that line. One referred to the Cardinals organization on-air as garbage. I've never heard a paid "professional" analyst throw out that particular descriptor on the record before.
 
Titans in a bidding war with the Pats for D Hop, for whatever reason

This is quickly turning from a rebuild into a disaster that will push the rebuild out another 3 years

Randy Moss, Julio, Robert Woods, and now DHop. Seeing a trend. Titans are like a 55+ community for wide receivers.
 
To be fair, Titans ain’t winning a 🏆 either
That’s what I was implying with the 1st sentence if he’s down to only the Pats or Titans. I just thought the Pats angle was an interesting call out because I can’t remember the last time they were projected to finish last in their division by a lot of analysts.
 
Hey @VolsDoc81TX or other medical professionals of VN. Is there any medical benefit to giving blood on a regular basis. I gave today and was just wondering. I intend to continue giving blood as I am O+ but was wondering if it was beneficial for my health as well. TIA.

The benefits are mostly to those who need the blood products.

Not my area of expertise. No detrimental effects to the donor that I am aware of.
 
Very witty…. Looks like they are getting ready to move on from Pat..


If AJ Johnson and the punter from Buffalo has taught us anything….. wait till all the evidence comes out.


Northwestern didn't want the evidence out though. In the articles where the witnesses were quoted, one mentioned that he wanted the details of the report released to the public. IOW, the ones making the allegations were calling for full sunlight - disclosure. Northwestern had every intention of sweeping it under the rug but those quotes were enough to spook them. The full report must be pretty horrible.
 
That’s what I was implying with the 1st sentence if he’s down to only the Pats or Titans. I just thought the Pats angle was an interesting call out because I can’t remember the last time they were projected to finish last in their division by a lot of analysts.
D-hop isn't as over the hill as some of these other receivers.

I think adding him makes the Titans a favorite in the division again.

Defense will be really good again

D-Hop gives them that play action deep threat they missed last year. It'll open up the offense a ton. And no Downing.
 
Conversations from the off-season worth revisiting as we approach August...

Josh Pate of The Late Kick (247):

As a program, Tennessee was good, then they fell, and they were in the wilderness for a long long time. Then there were some brief, faint radio transmissions from out there, and you thought oh is Tennessee back? No, Tennessee's not back, never mind. Butch Jones? Trash can? Nope. It was failure after failure after failure. Derek Dooley is wearing what color pants?

Then all of a sudden, they beat Alabama last year. Then all of a sudden the dam broke. Here comes the wave, and the mood around Tennessee is "ride the wave as long as we possibly can."

And they have earned it. That fanbase deserves it. It took a long time to get back.

There will be plenty of other programs that tell you they were out in the wilderness and it just makes you appreciate the success more. Current Tennessee students, they don't know their college program's place in college football history. They've been institutionalized, they've been in this little college football self-made prison where you've been dreaming of the Gator Bowl, and fantasizing about what it would be like to win 10 games. That is not Tennessee. That has been Tennessee in your lifetime.

Tennessee is supposed to compete for National Championships. That's where they're supposed to be. That's the conversation they're supposed to be in. Now, the fans got institutionalized because you've watched a lot of very very subpar Tennessee teams get trotted out there on Saturdays in the fall. So you got convinced, and a lot of people did their best to convince you, that Tennessee couldn't be great anymore.

Remember that conversation? "The game has just changed, Tennessee just can't recruit well enough."

I remember when we had Josh Heupel on the show last year, and he didn't even let me get the sentence out of my mouth. I started to say the whole Tennessee can't recruit and he said "do you see my face, that's how disgusted I am by that statement."

He was right. A lot of that was just fodder. The fact is, the results had nothing to do with the system being stacked against them, it had nothing to do with the sport leaving them behind, they just made terrible hires. They just made poor decisions and they suffered the consequences.

Now they made a good hire and they are benefitting from the positive consequences of that. And that's "the wave." You are experiencing "The Red Bull" effect at Tennessee - it's the sugar high. And there's a finite amount in that can, that sugar and energy before you've got to put together something that is sustainable. That's what we can't know yet. We know Tennessee looked really good last year, what we can't know is how sustainable it is.

Are we gonna look back in 2026 and say man that one blip year really made us feel like they were on the way back but they fell off. Or are we gonna say man look at Tennessee, they're in it again every year, and what started in 2021 and 2022 has become a perennial powerhouse program.

I don't know. We can all guess one way or the other. What I do know is defense has to be better. They were 44th in points per game. I think what has looked better is that they are recruiting better defensive personnel. They had the number 9 class in the country in recruiting. They landed a 5 star QB. Their first top 10 class since 2015. They had the most wins last year since 2001. They led the FBS in points per game and yards per game offensively.

There is no more guessing what Tennessee is. They are a contender. They are the 4th highest odds from the SEC to win the national title. I think it will surprise some people to see LSU listed ahead of them but it shouldn't. That has everything to do with the QB position.

Speaking of the QB position, here's where my head would be if I were a Tennessee fan. Look at the draft this year. What they said about Hooker. If they're right, that means Josh Heupel just owned the college football world with a mid-round guy. What happens when he gets a top-tier guy, then?

They had Jalin Hyatt, who wasn't even supposed to be the main guy at WR. He just destroyed Alabama. The only thing that stopped him was the clock hitting zero because he would have kept scoring as long as they played.

My point is, there will be people looking at Hooker and Hyatt leaving and say "uh oh." My question would be, were you touting them last year? Were you touting Hyatt? Are you touting Squirrel White now? You will be talking about him a lot come fall. This offense is going to make Star offensive players every year. Whether it's Milton, who looked like a totally different guy in their bowl game. Whether it's Nico. Offense is not going to be the reason they lose games. If I'm a Tennessee fan I know that and can at least take comfort in that.
I gave you a like because it had to take about 35 to 40 minutes to type all this🤨
 
D-hop isn't as over the hill as some of these other receivers.

I think adding him makes the Titans a favorite in the division again.

Defense will be really good again

D-Hop gives them that play action deep threat they missed last year. It'll open up the offense a ton. And no Downing.

I wouldn’t call him over the hill either as he can provide some real value to some teams, but I do think it’s fair to say that he may not be a consistent #1 anymore. The last 2 years he’s played in 19 out of a possible 34 games and had ~1200 yards receiving combined. He’s had more injuries and missed more games in the last 3 years than he did in his first 6 years and he’s now 31.

Can he still take the top off of a defense? With a legit play-action, maybe, but his yards per catch have decreased steadily over his career and last year was tied for his lowest of his career. I think his value is coming into a team built to win where he can be that #1B receiver or #2 receiver and compete for a championship. Him coming into an offense where he is the focal point of a passing attack? With the salary he’s asking for, that’s a big risk, IMO.
 
I wouldn’t call him over the hill either as he can provide some real value to some teams, but I do think it’s fair to say that he may not be a consistent #1 anymore. The last 2 years he’s played in 19 out of a possible 34 games and had ~1200 yards receiving combined. He’s had more injuries and missed more games in the last 3 years than he did in his first 6 years and he’s now 31.

Can he still take the top off of a defense? With a legit play-action, maybe, but his yards per catch have decreased steadily over his career and last year was tied for his lowest of his career. I think his value is coming into a team built to win where he can be that #1B receiver or #2 receiver and compete for a championship. Him coming into an offense where he is the focal point of a passing attack? With the salary he’s asking for, that’s a big risk, IMO.
Well it will be him and Burks first and foremost

Defenses don't always respect Tannehill and they certainly still respect Derrick Henry, which in theory gets Hopkins a very good chance to exploit coverages downfield. RT can get the ball down there.

I mean I don't know what the Titans are trying to do, but if they want to give themselves another shot at making a run anytime soon with their current roster they need Hopkins.
 
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Well it will be him and Burks first and foremost

Defenses don't always respect Tannehill and they certainly still respect Derrick Henry, which in theory gets Hopkins a very good chance to exploit coverages downfield. RT can get the ball down there.

I mean I don't know what the Titans are trying to do, but if they want to give themselves another shot at making a run anytime soon with their current roster they need Hopkins.
I am hoping Tyjae Spears does well. I think he will be a good receiver as a RB and lining up in the slot.
 
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I will take your word for it. I’m going to stick with normal pork bacon though.
I have read where center cut pork bacon is equivalent to the turkey bacon. Can’t remember where I read that, but that’s good enough for me health wise. 😎

That is all we buy. A lot less fat than regular bacon and still has that delicious pork flavor. 😋
 
Oh, I remember what the Las Vegas driver said about the orb. He claimed it can display in perfect proportion everything behind it such that it appears to the eye to have disappeared.

Cloaking technology for @Sally and our AI overloads to use against us. Great.
 
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