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I knew I would never win the argument against your infallible logic. I reverted to what always worked in middle school. It was either that or ā€œYour Momā€
 
I knew I would never win the argument against your infallible logic. I reverted to what always worked in middle school. It was either that or ā€œYour Momā€
My wife and stepdaughter are still brand loyal to the technique. As I gifā€™dā€¦ā€good oneā€. šŸ˜Ž
 
Yet it still didn't make Bonds better than Griffey to me. I remember those who thought Miguel Cabrera's Triple Crown didn't warrant a MVP because Trout had him on WAR.
And I didnā€™t agree with that.

We donā€™t award MVPs, Heismans, and the like to simply ā€œguy with best statsā€, or ā€œguy most valuable in a vacuumā€.

Mike Trout had an incredibly ā€œvaluableā€ season - due to his offensive outburst at a key defensive position (performance at CF is much more valuable than performance at 1B).

But Mike Trout didnā€™t get my vote for MVP.
 
I would skip Naples (the city itself) itself except if you want to go to Pompeii, which is very interesting. Go to the Amalfi Coast. Go to Sorrento or Positano. You can take a ferry between the two. Ristorante Da Costantino is a great restaurant in Positano. It is up on a hill with a great view. Try and sit outside. Florence is one of my favorite cities. There is a lot to see there. You can spend several days there. Rome is also a great city. Get a tour guide for the Coliseum. You get a lot more info and get to see more. Make sure the tour includes the lower portion which has just had more of it opened. Also do the Forum area and the Pantheon. Go to the Navona Plaza and eat and watch the world go by. A bunch of restaurants there just pick one. If you are looking for the best small town in Italy go to Montepulciano. It has great wine, restaurants and views of the country side. If you decide to go I can give you recommendations. Italy is my favorite place in Europe. I could go on and on
This is the info I was hoping for. thank you. We have scratched Naples. Trying to make an itinerary of every place we want to see has become a challenge. We were thinking Sicily? couple of days, fly to rome stay for a couple of days, drive to Venice?, then Drive to Dubrovnik or close Cities.

In all honesty Rome is the only true city we have settled on. Thank you for the info on your guides.
 
I agree with the Amalfi coast but would also like to add that Cinque Terre and Sienna were my two favorites from my trip to Italy.

Cinque Terre all the way

Hiked along the sea through olive groves and wine vineyards. Stopped at a winery--not some Napa Valley-style tasting room, but just an old Italian dude's farm--and bought a dusty bottle with no label. It was amazing. Ate stupid well. Monterosso al Mare is a dang postcard.

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You are certainly entitled to that opinion, but there are no objective facts to back that.

Except for the ā€œlikeableā€ aspect. Thatā€™s 100% objective troof.
Objectiveā€¦robot conjured stats to prove a narrativeā€¦whatevs. šŸ˜“
 
Objectiveā€¦robot conjured stats to prove a narrativeā€¦whatevs. šŸ˜“
Wut. WAR was conjured up to prove the narrative that Little Barry was the better player compared to Ken Griffey?

That seemsā€¦ out there.

Barry Bonds was a cheater. AND youā€™re a Braves fan. I get it.
Iā€™m a Yankees fan with an irrational hatred for David Ortiz.
 
I haven't but that's another possibility once the season starts. So far reports haven't been good on the JUCO offensive lineman (Larry Johnson III) from this last class. I would think that CGG might try the JUCO route for a defensive tackle though. He's had a lot of success with JUCOs in the past.
What REAL ā€œreportsā€ are we getting tho? I donā€™t think heā€™s ready for the pace and style of this OL just yet, but he has a redshirt to burn and everything else to develop. Anybody else here seriously believe Ollie Lane and Jackson Lampley would be realistic options as recently as one year ago?
 
Yet it still didn't make Bonds better than Griffey to me. I remember those who thought Miguel Cabrera's Triple Crown didn't warrant a MVP because Trout had him on WAR.

Trout also swiped like 50 bags and was one of the best fielders in the game at a premium defensive position. Cabrera was too fat to play defense. Thatā€™s why Troutā€™s WAR was nearly double and deserved the MVP. He was a better ball player that year.
 
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Wut. WAR was conjured up to prove the narrative that Little Barry was the better player compared to Ken Griffey?

That seemsā€¦ out there.

Barry Bonds was a cheater. AND youā€™re a Braves fan. I get it.
Iā€™m a Yankees fan with an irrational hatred for David Ortiz.
I'm a Dodgers fan and hate the Giants as a whole Bonds and Posey at top and put Bumgarner in there as well...
 
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Wut. WAR was conjured up to prove the narrative that Little Barry was the better player compared to Ken Griffey?

That seemsā€¦ out there.

Barry Bonds was a cheater. AND youā€™re a Braves fan. I get it.
Iā€™m a Yankees fan with an irrational hatred for David Ortiz.
I think nerds felt isolated and lonely and created a Klingon language of their own to land chicks.


No one recognized Barry Bonds greatness when he was clean more than this Braves fan. We got close to landing himā€¦but his heart was in San Francisco (intentional). Tale of the tape side by side, Griffey was the greater talent. Faster, more powerful arm, more powerful bat (when juice wasnā€™t a factor) and he hit for average. 5 tools better than Barryā€™s and that wouldā€™ve held up if nature wasnā€™t defiled.
 
Trout also swiped like 50 bags and was one of the best fielders in the game at a premium defensive position. Cabrera was too fat to play defense. Thatā€™s why Troutā€™s WAR was nearly double and deserved the MVP. He was a better ball player that year.
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On August 25, 1835, the first in a series of six articles announcing the supposed discovery of life on the moon appears in the New York Sun newspaper.

Known collectively as ā€œThe Great Moon Hoax,ā€ the articles were supposedly reprinted from the Edinburgh Journal of Science. The byline was Dr. Andrew Grant, described as a colleague of Sir John Herschel, a famous astronomer of the day. Herschel had in fact traveled to Capetown, South Africa, in January 1834 to set up an observatory with a powerful new telescope. As Grant described it, Herschel had found evidence of life forms on the moon, including such fantastic animals as unicorns, two-legged beavers and furry, winged humanoids resembling bats. The articles also offered vivid description of the moonā€™s geography, complete with massive craters, enormous amethyst crystals, rushing rivers and lush vegetation.

The New York Sun, founded in 1833, was one of the new ā€œpenny pressā€ papers that appealed to a wider audience with a cheaper price and a more narrative style of journalism. From the day the first moon hoax article was released, sales of the paper shot up considerably. It was exciting stuff, and readers lapped it up. The only problem was that none of it was true. The Edinburgh Journal of Science had stopped publication years earlier, and Grant was a fictional character. The articles were most likely written by Richard Adams Locke, a Sun reporter educated at Cambridge University. Intended as satire, they were designed to poke fun at earlier, serious speculations about extraterrestrial life, particularly those of Reverend Thomas Dick, a popular science writer who claimed in his bestselling books that the moon alone had 4.2 billion inhabitants.

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Richard G. West just went from six to midnight
 
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