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Man this isn’t it. I don’t understand how you can just accept placing every bit of the burden on fans. We pay tv subscriptions, we have to watch extended commercials, plus pay for NIL, because for some reason these massive tv contracts don’t pay the players. The fan is being pulled in every direction in this scenario. I don’t think you should just convince yourself that it’s ok. It’s not ok.
I'd be fine with more commercials if it weren't at the expense of fewer football plays. But great post, we're the ones losing in all these scenarios. Cable subscriptions skyrocketing while commercials are increasing and actual content decreasing?
 
• ⁠Josh Heupel started his Tennessee tenure 7-6. He's 12-2 since.
• ⁠Tennessee has scored 31+ points in 16 of their last 17 games.
• ⁠And 38+ points in 14 of their last 17 games.
• ⁠11 of Tennessee's last 14 wins have been by at least 17 points.
• ⁠If Tennessee makes a NY6 bowl this year, it'll be their first back to back trips since 1997-1999.
• ⁠In the last two games, Joe Milton has accounted for 490 yards and 7 touchdowns. Those numbers would certainly be higher if both games weren't out of hand at the end.
• ⁠Tennessee has won four straight season openers. They had lost their previous two before this streak.
• ⁠Joe Milton hasn't thrown an interception since November 14, 2020.
• ⁠Tennessee finished #6 in last year's AP Poll. It was their first top 10 finish since 2001.
• ⁠Tennessee's three-headed monster at RB had 38 carries, 234 yards, 6.16 ypc, and 3 TD.
• ⁠Josh Heupel won 18 games in 2021-2022. The last time Tennessee won more in a two-year stretch was 2006-2007 (19)
• ⁠Joe Milton in Josh Heupel's offense: 66%, 10.46 ypa, 14 TD, 188.33 rating. For reference, Bryce Young's rating the year he won the Heisman was 167.5.
• ⁠Tony Elliott is 1-8 vs. Power 5 teams.
• ⁠In Tony Elliott's final year as Clemson's offensive coordinator, they had the 82nd ranked scoring offense in the country.
• ⁠Virginia hasn't scored >28 points vs. a Power 5 team since November 20th, 2021.
• ⁠The Cavaliers' starting quarterback threw for 94 yards today.
• ⁠Virginia was held to 202 total yards.
• ⁠Two different Tennessee players had more sacks than Virginia had touchdowns.
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The punkificationalization of No. 14, man that's bad


I like to look at our roster before games and see who is from the state we are playing. It is extra motivation. This is true on special teams, too, with guys who aren't yet well known.

LSU #14 is a transfer safety from McNeese State (fifth year player).
 
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Man this isn’t it. I don’t understand how you can just accept placing every bit of the burden on fans. We pay tv subscriptions, we have to watch extended commercials, plus pay for NIL, because for some reason these massive tv contracts don’t pay the players. The fan is being pulled in every direction in this scenario. I don’t think you should just convince yourself that it’s ok. It’s not ok.
I didn’t claim it is ok. I stated that it is this way because of the need to pay these massive tv contracts. Do you believe that the networks are going to just take it from their bottom line as it currently is? Nope.
 
I'd be fine with more commercials if it weren't at the expense of fewer football plays.
I would generally agree in terms of watching the games on TV. However, it absolutely kills the in-stadium experience.

The 2021 Ole Miss game was brutal. I do not think it is fair to the players or the fans to have multiple 15 minute commercial breaks during the game.
 
1:21:16 in Freak's full game video... On their 15 yard line, two safeties back and the corners playing 8 yards off the LOS. They are defending the goal line with the entire secondary. This is an obvious running down. But Milton still fires it complete to the two yard line with a perfect rope that NFL scouts will drool over.

Yet the concern trolls want our attention.
Charge your taters.
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Idk. 80+% of the time the screen is blank (football only). Other times I can click the video but just get a black box (no video).

I cleared cache last week. Didn't help. This has been going on for a while.
 
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I'd be fine with more commercials if it weren't at the expense of fewer football plays. But great post, we're the ones losing in all these scenarios. Cable subscriptions skyrocketing while commercials are increasing and actual content decreasing?
I’m not sure I’d ever be fine with the amount of commercials. I was struggling with them last year. This year is brutal and I can’t watch a game without feeling pretty disgusted about what has happened. A few people have gotten filthy rich while basically ruining the product for the masses and wasting our lives with endless commercials. I can refuse to watch, but it won’t do anything. I guess this has been coming for decades, as they slowly stripped away tradition and regionality for money, but this feels like a huge shocking step. The sport relies on the fans, but we are basically the only ones who don’t get a say in how the sport is changing. I obviously think it’s an unacceptable change, but I wonder if enough other people actually care enough to make an impact.
 
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What we talking here? A potato gun bolted onto a pontoon boat?
I'm working up some plans right now...

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I didn’t claim it is ok. I stated that it is this way because of the need to pay these massive tv contracts. Do you believe that the networks are going to just take it from their bottom line as it currently is? Nope.
They could charge more for the commercials. That would solve it.

If the commercials aren't worth more, they are paying too much, with no one to blame but themselves. They shouldn't be able to recoup their error at the expense of the defenseless viewer.
 
uh, yeah. That will get us beat.

The punting was awful but I'll give him a mulligan. The fumble stunk but Dee Williams is a great returner and I'd rather him do it in a game like this one where it really had 0 impact. Kickoffs need to be cleaned up, I think we had 2 out of bounds. Should be simple fixes. Ugly punts like that will get us beat for sure against good teams, we can't afford those mistakes. I'd rather him just boot the thing instead of running to the side like that if he keeps shanking them.
 
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They could charge more for the commercials. That would solve it.

If the commercials aren't worth more, they are paying too much, with no one to blame but themselves. They shouldn't be able to recoup their error at the expense of the defenseless viewer.

The biggest thing I don't understand is a large portion of the commercials are for their own shows... I'm not sure how much overlap they are expecting with SEC viewership for the "Golden Bachelor".
 
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