Recruiting Forum: Football Talk XI

#127
#127
valoisvol said:
Ron, is this a reflection on Kerbyson not performing at tackle, or is one of the guards (Weisman, Jackson) going to be pushed out and replaced with Kerbyson?
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I think Kerbyson is probably performing fine at RT but it just sounds like to me that Coleman Thomas is a stud and performing better. VQ has reported that he's been very impressive since he arrived on campus, each week it seems they have something very positive to say about him.

If these reports keep up Thomas might win that RT job and Kerbyson will likely be the 6th OL. JMO
 
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#128
#128
Ron Swanson said:
I think Kerbyson is probably performing fine at RT but it just sounds like to me that Coleman Thomas is a stud and performing better. VQ has reported that he's been very impressive since he arrived on campus, each week it seems they have something very positive to say about him.

If these reports keep up Thomas might win that RT job and Kerbyson will likely be the 6th OL. JMO
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We're now thinking from. Left to right:
Blair, Weisman, Crowder, Jackson, Thomas
With Kerbyson, Sanders, and Kendrick on the swing. We need a back up center very badly!
 
#129
#129
Ron Swanson said:
I think Kerbyson is probably performing fine at RT but it just sounds like to me that Coleman Thomas is a stud and performing better. VQ has reported that he's been very impressive since he arrived on campus, each week it seems they have something very positive to say about him.

If these reports keep up Thomas might win that RT job and Kerbyson will likely be the 6th OL. JMO
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This.

Either way it is a pleasant problem. If Thomas gets the nod it means we have a stud at RT for at least 3 years that is athletic enough to move to LT down the road. They will have an experienced Kerbyson ready to step in for injuries or bad performance. If Thomas backs up and Kerbyson gets the nod they have a young stud ready to step in for injuries and gain experience along multiple positions in the line.

O-line is going to be a lot better than many folks are willing to give them credit at this point. By mid season many will have totally forgotten the bunch that is leaving. This group is more suited for this offense. The last group was more suited for the former offense.
 
#130
#130
Burger said:
We're now thinking from. Left to right:
Blair, Weisman, Crowder, Jackson, Thomas
With Kerbyson, Sanders, and Kendrick on the swing. We need a back up center very badly!
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They move Thomas to C and Kerbyson back to RT.
 
#135
#135
Tennessee Golfer said:
Raulerson is getting a lot of looks at C right now.
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Good stuff. It's very important that somebody not starting elsewhere is behind Crowder. Mack is our second best returning lineman to Marcus Jackson. I bet the push from them two are godly. I'm glad we run a ZBS. It works better.
 
#136
#136
valoisvol said:
Ron, is this a reflection on Kerbyson not performing at tackle, or is one of the guards (Weisman, Jackson) going to be pushed out and replaced with Kerbyson?
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Neither. Kerbyson hasn't been moved, he is just getting more dry-run reps at Guard because he would move into guard if an interior OL got hurt. Fulton and Bullard both cross-trained at tackle in 2013 similarly.
 
#137
#137
You'll see a lot of guys cross train at other positions. This allows the coaches versatility to get the best 5 on the field.
 
#138
#138
Madkins8 said:
Neither. Kerbyson hasn't been moved, he is just getting more dry-run reps at Guard because he would move into guard if an interior OL got hurt. Fulton and Bullard both cross-trained at tackle in 2013 similarly.
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Cross-training happens everywhere. The Green Bay Packers prove that with the revolving doors of injuries. TJ Lang had to hold down 4 different positions at one point or another.
 
#139
#139
Vols4us said:
O-line is going to be a lot better than many folks are willing to give them credit at this point. By mid season many will have totally forgotten the bunch that is leaving. This group is more suited for this offense. The last group was more suited for the former offense.
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I agree completely. Not sure why everyone is so worried about the OL. Let's take a look at each guy...

Blair - Junior - Stud JUCO, who started all 17 games in his JC career, with offers from about 10 of the top programs in CFB, #2 JUCO OL in the country, EE who will already be on campus 8 months before the season starts.

Jackson - RS Junior - Started 5 games as a freshman at LG, played in all 12, also was backup to D. Thomas at LG as a Soph and played in all 12, redshirted in '13 and will have 2 seasons to play. When he was battling Bullard at LG I thought he was better or at least as good as Bullard.

Crowder - RS Junior - redshirted as a freshman, played in 10 games the next two years including a start vs. USC in '13. He might not be the biggest center in the SEC but he's been in the program a long time now and has seen a good amount of action on the field and is very capable.

Wiesman - Soph - received rave reviews since the day he arrived on campus. Considered a very tough, physical OL who came from a very good HS program. Played in 10 games as a true freshman.

Kerbyson - RS Junior, played in 19 games in his career. He's been a backup for a couple years and seen plenty of the field.

Other OL who might make the rotation...C. Thomas, Sanders, Kendrick, Gilliam, Pair.

At least we're not throwing a handful of true freshman out there or walk-ons. Most of these guys are very talented, highly recruited OL, who've been in the program for 2+ years. Unless we have multiple season ending injuries I'm not worried about the OL at all.

'14 and '15 will all depend on the play at QB. Not OL, DL or any other position. The Vols will go as far as one of the 4 QB's on campus can take them. JMO
 
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#141
Nashvegas31 said:
Thig new title is HC of Crooting Global

He don't need no limitations. Thig croot the entire mutha fin country
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Why would you take away part of his region? Remove Europe, lose Jacob...

Samoa and Tonga will be hit up for OL/DL soon :)

Coach Thigpen = No Limits
 
#142
#142
Ron Swanson said:
'14 and '15 will all depend on the play at QB. Not OL, DL or any other position. The Vols will go as far as one of the 4 QB's on campus can take them. JMO
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What I've been thinking as well.

If one of our QB's can step up and be elite then we could be an 8-9 win team this season.

If we get average QB play like we did during the UGA and USC games then we will be around 6-7 wins.

If we get bad QB play like we did down the stretch this year could be really bad like 4-8 or 5-7 bad.

I do have confidence that we at least get average QB play though. That is why I am predicting 7 wins.
 
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#144
#144
jspvol76 said:
Where is Sanders in this discussion?
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I think we'll find that out during spring ball. Right now he's probably 7-10 in the rotation. Hubbs said the other day that he's gotten much stronger and will have an opportunity to show his skills this spring.
 
#145
#145
Ron Swanson said:
I agree completely. Not sure why everyone is so worried about the OL. Let's take a look at each guy...
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Nice assessment Ron. I agree. With a dramatic influx of talent at the skill positions, I have to think that, even with a similar level of QB play, we should be better by a game or two this year.
 
#146
#146
VolsDoc81TX said:
Why would you take away part of his region? Remove Europe, lose Jacob...

Samoa and Tonga will be hit up for OL/DL soon :)

Coach Thigpen = No Limits
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Sorry I misunderstood his role. Thig is now Head of United Nations after further review.

On kerbyson I've always seen analyst and media say his most upside and future is at guard. That is staff preference but he has been repping at tackle out of necessity because Dooley didnt know how to croot
 
#147
#147
Anyone notice there are a couple of fullbacks on the roster now?

I just noticed last week. They are two converted, walk-on linebackers, but it's interesting that there is now a fullback position at all. It's been a little while since we've had one.

Maybe some new wrinkles for the offense? Or maybe it's just the off season.
 
#148
#148
WriterVol said:
Anyone notice there are a couple of fullbacks on the roster now?

I just noticed last week. They are two converted, walk-on linebackers, but it's interesting that there is now a fullback position at all. It's been a little while since we've had one.

Maybe some new wrinkles for the offense? Or maybe it's just the off season.
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We're always adding wrinkles. Looks like Fugate shouldn't of left. Bajakian might of learned from last year. I love the adaptability of our staff.
 
#149
#149
Ericvol2096 said:
What I've been thinking as well.

If one of our QB's can step up and be elite then we could be an 8-9 win team this season.

If we get average QB play like we did during the UGA and USC games then we will be around 6-7 wins.

If we get bad QB play like we did down the stretch this year could be really bad like 4-8 or 5-7 bad.

I do have confidence that we at least get average QB play though. That is why I am predicting 7 wins.
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My thoughts exactly. I am expecting average to above average QB play, which gives me hope for 7-8 wins.
 
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#150
#150
Ericvol2096 said:
What I've been thinking as well.

If one of our QB's can step up and be elite then we could be an 8-9 win team this season.

If we get average QB play like we did during the UGA and USC games then we will be around 6-7 wins.

If we get bad QB play like we did down the stretch this year could be really bad like 4-8 or 5-7 bad.

I do have confidence that we at least get average QB play though. That is why I am predicting 7 wins.
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I agree it all hinges on what we get from the QB position - it gives me hope that CBJ has been able to manufacture wins before without great QB play - that 2012 season is a pretty remarkable coaching job considering how poorly Legaux played that year
 
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