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He makes more fired than he does working. His contract is for $900k with incentives to make up to $1.2m. Or he can get fired and be guaranteed $1.2m.

It’s sheer incompetence.

If I were over there John Cuurie would be vice chancellor of athletic supporters today. He might get his $100000/month but he'd work for it. Life would be hard for him. I'd have David Blackburn or Phil over there in an office today. John Currie would be neutered.
 
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He makes more fired than he does working. His contract is for $900k with incentives to make up to $1.2m. Or he can get fired and be guaranteed $1.2m.

It’s sheer incompetence.

It's amazing that was ever agreed to, especially for an Athletics Director. There are literally thousands of administrators you could hire to run a stable AD.

Like I said, if they won't buy him out, the other boosters need to leak stories every week reminding people that Currie and Haslam are inextricably linked. Make Currie's unpopularity Pilot's unpopularity. And don't let up.
 
The only way thus gets fixed is for the Haslams to surrender. I see no way for that to happen. Because of that, UT football is pretty much finished for the foreseeable future.

I think the only way for that to happen is for the AD to implode financially. People giving up season tickets, boosters throwing in the towel. 50K in the stands weekly. Then heads will roll, and leadership from the top down will change and we can rebuild.

Much as I hate it, I think you are right. We have not hit complete rock bottom yet, I don’t think. It sure feels like it as a fan but it’s clear the administration isn’t changing in a way that shows they agree we’ve hit rock bottom. Still business as usual for them.

I really do think we are reflective of what would have happened if Bama had failed to hire Saban.
 
That's what I was saying earlier. After Sunday it's going to cost a lot of money to get out of this mess or you can kick it down the road 3-4 years.

It’s going to be that long before we’re close to being relevant again anyways. UGA is rolling with a freshman QB, Mullen will get things rolling at Florida, Vandy has put 40+ on us two years in a row, Kentucky beat us for the second time in 30 something years.

We are the new bottom of the SEC. That’s why this hire was so critical but TPTB screwed it up once again.
 
I am getting really nervous about all of the “hire Lane” chatter.

A few weeks ago he mentioned that his favorite fan base to troll on twitter was by far Tennessee.

Could he privately court us and then publicly turn us down after we offer? Most in the national media would applaud him if he did.
 
It's amazing that was ever agreed to, especially for an Athletics Director. There are literally thousands of administrators you could hire to run a stable AD.

Like I said, if they won't buy him out, the other boosters need to leak stories every week reminding people that Currie and Haslam are inextricably linked. Make Currie's unpopularity Pilot's unpopularity. And don't let up.

I was outraged when it happened. Got ripped on this board relentlessly.

We all should have been pissed at that contract. Slap in our faces after we lived thru the Hamilton era.
 
It's amazing that was ever agreed to, especially for an Athletics Director. There are literally thousands of administrators you could hire to run a stable AD.

Like I said, if they won't buy him out, the other boosters need to leak stories every week reminding people that Currie and Haslam are inextricably linked. Make Currie's unpopularity Pilot's unpopularity. And don't let up.

The Haslams are almost untouchable. It has to be a coup from within. May have to wait until bill is out of office. Whomever we elect must be anti-Haslam.
 
If I were over there John Cuurie would be vice chancellor of athletic supporters today. He might get his $100000/month but he'd work for it. Life would be hard for him. I'd have David Blackburn or Phil over there in an office today. John Currie would be neutered.

Agree.
Hey InVol, I respect your opinion.
I just posted something in the FF about the Haslams.
Would like your thoughts, if you don’t mind venturing over there.
 
dont be part of the problem....be part of the solution..you should know that.

dont pressure the AD to make a stupid hire just for times sake....

think about it....have a great day....and push for a great hire. Not just a hire to satisfy people who are upset for this short period...we need to stop and try to make a good hire for the long term...again Good day
 
Until the Haslams are gone I'm not renewing my season tickets. Unless Les Miles or a competent coach is hired Neyland gonna be empty. I'm sick of second rate up and comers like Dooley and Butch Jones. UT has never paid top level money and don't appear to be anytime soon. If Tee is hired it will be another 5 years of misery.
 
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Time to let go of names like Harbaugh, Petersen, etc. We weren’t inking Schiano with that caliber of coaches on the back burner.
 
So what experienced, winning coach with big program experience do you think is willing to come here to rebuild this program in the shape it's in, in the current environment? For not a lot of money and minimal buyout. Because UT's not likely to break the bank for lower tier guys.

I don’t disagree that we are in a tough spot. I just think it’s a lot harder than you’re suggesting to just “ignore the media/noise”... Players and recruits will hear all that, and there’s a good chance a Petrino hire gets mocked. I think that’s part of the problem with Butch. Vol fans (e.g. Vol Twitter) and the media severely undermined his credibility with everyone.
 
First and foremost I'm not gonna comment on what religion is real and what's not. This isnt the time and the place.

With that being said, I'm gonna trust 247, and ESPN over a guy who cannot spell "moron" on a message board correctly.

You need to get out of the RF and stay out MORAN. It is Moran you moron.
 
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If we don’t get someone who can recruit his tail off, it won’t really matter who we get at this point with how low our program has fallen. Everyone is ahead of us, even Vand and KY, and our O and D lines are horrible and not getting any better.
 
dont be part of the problem....be part of the solution..you should know that.

dont pressure the AD to make a stupid hire just for times sake....

think about it....have a great day....and push for a great hire. Not just a hire to satisfy people who are upset for this short period...we need to stop and try to make a good hire for the long term...again Good day

I doubt anyone disagrees with the spirit of your point. I am curious about your opinion.


Who is the great hire we should push for?

Who should we not push for?

And do you think anyone in this AD cares what we say here?
 
Much as I hate it, I think you are right. We have not hit complete rock bottom yet, I don’t think. It sure feels like it as a fan but it’s clear the administration isn’t changing in a way that shows they agree we’ve hit rock bottom. Still business as usual for them.

I really do think we are reflective of what would have happened if Bama had failed to hire Saban.

I think if Bama would have failed to hire Saban, they still, wouldn't be as low as we've fallen. Their AD was nowhere close to as incompetent as this UT Administration. It is truly worse than I ever imagined.

We all sit back as mortals and think these people in power are super intelligent and count on them to make super intelligent decisions. In reality they have biases and agendas that are totally self serving and what's painfully obvious to me is, they ain't all that smart.
 
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