Recruiting Forum Football Talk XLVII

[Jimmy Football]

Was Ravens Harbaugh ever even a real option?

It was always 1 option: Greg Schiano. The rest of the search was a sham. Greg was Haslam's guy as soon as he got bucked by the Browns' GM.

 

[BigZiti09]

I was outraged when it happened. Got ripped on this board relentlessly.

We all should have been pissed at that contract. Slap in our faces after we lived thru the Hamilton era.

To make sure everyone is understanding how dumb this is....

He has a $900k salary. Incentives to make up to $1.2m

His buyout is $1.2m per year for the full term.

If he works his tail off for the next 4.5 years and does great he MIGHT make $5m over that time.

If we fire him today he makes $6m guaranteed and doesn’t have to lift a finger.

 

[BleedorangeinGA]

If you're Currie you do what the damn Haslams tell you. Which is go cheap or else.

Here is the funny thing. They could accomplish this, Tee I'm sure will take 3.8m and bring a large portion of the fan base together.

Seems like they would do this, as it's obvious they don't care if we actually win or not.

 

[WarMachine]

I think Currie could be fired for cause. Apparently he acted on behalf of Haslam with no approval from anyone else at UT?

 

[JacketVol]

I hope so, I haven't had my coffee so i apologize for getting triggered if that's the case.

But even then, let's end that. It cringes me to see those words misspelled.

Guys,

This is Haslam. Now go at him. Say it one more time

 

[JCP201]

[twitter]https://twitter.com/SInow/status/935351079117754368[/twitter]

 

[Kingston Vol]

I have not seen anything credible that confirms we met with Dan Mullen or offered him the job.

Pretty clear that Schiano was always the guy and once Mullen was off the board he thought he could run up there and hammer it through to give the impression we got our #2.

Agreed. The Haslams and Currie had this plan all along. I'm going to guess it may have even been a contingency to getting the AD job. "What coaches do you have good relationships with in case a change needs to be made?"

Now listen, I don't think Gruden was ever interested on his end nor do I think he could have been persuaded, however, it's the dumbest thing in the world to push his name with the low-level boosters as it appears the Haslams did. Remember all that talk about "we're all on the same page now."? I don't think that was a coincidence. They let everyone think they were "special" and "listened to" while they had Greg Schiano in their backpocket the whole time.

 

[Darth_Shiveman]

Some of you guys need to get off your pedal stools. It's mind bottling the way we attack are own sometimes. Bunch morans if you ask me.

I know you're joking and this still made fidget uncomfortably in my seat

 

[InVOLuntary]

Agree.
Hey InVol, I respect your opinion.
I just posted something in the FF about the Haslams.
Would like your thoughts, if you don’t mind venturing over there.

All of us.
Higher ticket and concessions prices, if necessary.
Big donors that have the wherewithal to dig deeper.
Fund raising campaigns to offset the loss instead of the proposed Neyland renovations.
Bake sales? Car washes? Lol.
Haslam money is not the only money.

Is this the one? In response making up revenue of missing out on Haslem money?

 

[bcmbvol]

We've been getting "money-balled" just like the Browns. It's one thing to apply that strategy to the game of baseball that's out of the zeitgeist, which allows you more time. What works in football is obvious, and we're doing the complete opposite.

 

[mrorange211]

For me it's Kiffin by a mile.

 

[InVOLuntary]

To make sure everyone is understanding how dumb this is....

He has a $900k salary. Incentives to make up to $1.2m

His buyout is $1.2m per year for the full term.

If he works his tail off for the next 4.5 years and does great he MIGHT make $5m over that time.

If we fire him today he makes $6m guaranteed and doesn’t have to lift a finger.

After Sunday surely they could fire him with cause. I mean mental competency should be a condition of his employment.

 

[Nationdom]

For me it's Kiffin by a mile.

If anyone in the AD or Haslam's want to actually win and quit losing to Vanderbilt, Missouri and UK, He's the choice.

 

[nicksjuzunk]

WARNING: THIS IS A PARODY QUOTE. SOME OF YOU'NS HAVE NOT BEEN UNDERSTANDING STUFF LATELY. DO NOT TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY. THIS IS SIMPLY TO FEED MY BRAIN THE LIKES NECESSARY TO STIMULATE DOPAMINE SECRETION IN MY BRAIN.

Currie's car is in the parking lot today. It's covered in pigeon poop, so I'm not sure it's been moved in a while. I think he's probably making some calls. I think some mid-road C-USA coaches will get a call. Whatever pile of man UNLV has out there now-a-days will probably get a look too. I haven't been able to confirm much, but we are chasing. One name I've heard a lot is Greg Schiano out at OSU, but you all pretty much destroyed that like a paper bag toilet after thanksgiving dinner, so I'm a bit out of touch at the moment.

- Parody Hubbs

 

[Hammer85]

Just read some of Beaver’s tweets. I think he is someone in the know, but the info he laid out in the Gruden thread many weeks ago wasn’t about an agenda to hire Gruden. I think it was an agenda to overthrow the power of the Haslams. The plan was to hype Gruden and make everyone think he was a lock to coach, but he and whoever is involved knew Haslam would torpedo it just like in 2012. When Haslam torpedoed it by going behind everyone’s backs to make his own hire, then Volnation’s voice started to be heard, and the backlash became too much. This fully exposed the Haslams. Why would he all of a sudden make his twitter public, when he knows he may be lashed out at because of the Gruden stuff? He wants to be heard more and more, and he has media members now following him to get his message out farther abroad. He is striking while the iron is hot and putting on more steam to try to take down the Haslams. Go read his tweets in the last 24 hours. I hope this is what’s happening, because it’s our only chance to rid this university of the Haslams.

I know everybody thinks hes a troll and dont blame anyone for that but I agree with your conclusions. He let it be known early on that he did not care if he stepped on John Curries toes and in fact would like nothing more than to do that. I wondered if he wasnt someone in the Blackburn camp at that time. He came here with a very intended purpose and that was to engage Volnation and to get the masses riled up. He used Gruden to hold peoples attention so that they would listen to what he had to say. Whether he believed Gruden was actually coming here I have no actual clue but using him as bait held Volnations attention enough to get his message across. He said VN had a very powerful voice and look what that did for us. IMO he had to come off as arrogant and cocky in the beginning to make his story believable. He is now talking like somebody and everything he is saying right now is %100 true.

 

[Jimmy Football]

Agreed. The Haslams and Currie had this plan all along. I'm going to guess it may have even been a contingency to getting the AD job. "What coaches do you have good relationships with in case a change needs to be made?"

Now listen, I don't think Gruden was ever interested on his end nor do I think he could have been persuaded, however, it's the dumbest thing in the world to push his name with the low-level boosters as it appears the Haslams did. Remember all that talk about "we're all on the same page now."? I don't think that was a coincidence. They let everyone think they were "special" and "listened to" while they had Greg Schiano in their backpocket the whole time.

Wish AV would come out with some specifics on this whole mess. The boosters need to make this all public. Leave no doubt in any Tennesse fan's minds that the Haslam's are running the show, and they're running it into the ground.

The Haslam reputation is more important to them than their money. If you really ratchet up the negativity on them, I think you'll see them back off.

 

[Vfl2407]

Guys,

This is Haslam. Now go at him. Say it one more time

#NoMoreHaslamHires

 

[nicksjuzunk]

For me it's Kiffin by a mile.

 

[Kingston Vol]

Wish AV would come out with some specifics on this whole mess. The boosters need to make this all public. Leave no doubt in any Tennesse fan's minds that the Haslam's are running the show, and they're running it into the ground.

The Haslam reputation is more important to them than their money. If you really ratchet up the negativity on them, I think you'll see them back off.

Buddy, they're being prosecuted for defrauding truck drivers and that hasn't stopped them. They don't care.

 

[Vfl2407]

Is this the one? In response making up revenue of missing out on Haslem money?

Yes.
OP line says #NoMoreHaslamHires

 

[mrorange211]

I'm just over it man. He left for his dream job. We need him as much as he needs us now. Construct a contract that protects the university and lets win some games.

 

[RVA Vol]

I wouldn't mind the haslams making the decisions and hiring people they can control if they didn't SUCK so bad at making decisions.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Agreed. The Haslams and Currie had this plan all along. I'm going to guess it may have even been a contingency to getting the AD job. "What coaches do you have good relationships with in case a change needs to be made?"

Now listen, I don't think Gruden was ever interested on his end nor do I think he could have been persuaded, however, it's the dumbest thing in the world to push his name with the low-level boosters as it appears the Haslams did. Remember all that talk about "we're all on the same page now."? I don't think that was a coincidence. They let everyone think they were "special" and "listened to" while they had Greg Schiano in their backpocket the whole time.

Remember all the talk about a power struggle amongst the boosters. I was skeptical at the time but I 100% believe it now. This hire came down exactly as did the Currie hire. Haslam/Currie tried to slip Schiano in the back door without anyone knowing. He didn't need smokescreens to fool the casual fan, it was to fool other boosters including the other major boosters. Anyone that signed off on this hire should be fired. It's unethical at best and criminal at worst. Why should we be surprised? They are in the middle of trial right now for shady dealings.

 

[Jimmy Football]

Buddy, they're being prosecuted for defrauding truck drivers and that hasn't stopped them. They don't care.

There are so many people I know that don't even realize this is going on. And I've heard several that do know say that they don't believe Jim or Jimmy had anything to do with it.

Hopefully this trial damages their goodwill. But everyone in this state cares about UT sucking at football. Let people know it's on the Haslams. Get that groundswell of support for new people to take over.

 

[St. JohnVolCactus]

PSA to everyone on this board. It is spelled MORON not "moran". It's an epidemic that needs to end. If we're going to insult ones intelligence, we need to do it correctly!

That's funny right there.