Recruiting Forum Football Talk XVIII

[Darth_Shiveman]

Yes, it's Thailand... Although Knoxville at the moment :rock:

11-12 hours difference. We don't observe day lights savings time, so it varies based on the time of year.

Yes, I live in the future, but through a time paradox, since the game is being played in the past, I only get to see it in the wee hours of Sunday morning.

I feel your pain. Although I'm 13-14 hours ahead depending on the time of year, so it's slightly more convenient.


Regardless, I'm going to be waking up some neighbors at 5-6 in the morning yelling drunkenly at my tv. I should probably warn them....

 

[volssam]

Thailand I believe.

(Just in the) Nick of Thai

 

[volssam]

Question for you guys who have been workout gurus for years:


How do you make peace with being borderline "overweight" based on the BMI scale? Or am I the only OCD-afflicted idiot who this bothers?

I have been a scale-watcher for many years, making sure I stayed in a certain weight range (like I said, OCD). My wife kept hinting or sometimes outright telling me she would like me to gain some weight/muscle. Anyways, I have started working out and gaining some muscle mass. And so of course that means my weight has gone up as well. Which is hard for me to watch with my OCD. But I am trying to deal with it. My wife likes the new look. Ha

But now, based on the BMI formula, my weight puts me right at the 25 limit where one is typically considered "overweight".

Anyways, do you guys just not pay attention to stuff like that? I guess they're kind of just arbitrary numbers, but still....

 

[Tennessee Golfer]

Question for you guys who have been workout gurus for years:


How do you make peace with being borderline "overweight" based on the BMI scale? Or am I the only OCD-afflicted idiot who this bothers?

I have been a scale-watcher for many years, making sure I stayed in a certain weight range (like I said, OCD). My wife kept hinting or sometimes outright telling me she would like me to gain some weight/muscle. Anyways, I have started working out and gaining some muscle mass. And so of course that means my weight has gone up as well. Which is hard for me to watch with my OCD. But I am trying to deal with it. My wife likes the new look. Ha

But now, based on the BMI formula, my weight puts me right at the 25 limit where one is typically considered "overweight".

Anyways, do you guys just not pay attention to stuff like that? I guess they're kind of just arbitrary numbers, but still....

Just give the ladies what they want.

 

[LurtzVol109]

Question for you guys who have been workout gurus for years:


How do you make peace with being borderline "overweight" based on the BMI scale? Or am I the only OCD-afflicted idiot who this bothers?

I have been a scale-watcher for many years, making sure I stayed in a certain weight range (like I said, OCD). My wife kept hinting or sometimes outright telling me she would like me to gain some weight/muscle. Anyways, I have started working out and gaining some muscle mass. And so of course that means my weight has gone up as well. Which is hard for me to watch with my OCD. But I am trying to deal with it. My wife likes the new look. Ha

But now, based on the BMI formula, my weight puts me right at the 25 limit where one is typically considered "overweight".

Anyways, do you guys just not pay attention to stuff like that? I guess they're kind of just arbitrary numbers, but still....

Did you do a cutting phase as well? When you are trying to add muscle mass, you should do it in two phases a bulking phase, where you concentrate on slow, high weight reps with alternating cardio every other day with sprints and distance runs, followed by a cutting phase where you do low weight, high reps with a strong cardio regimen every day. This increases your muscle mass and tones you out while reducing your body far %. With larger individuals, BMI is somewhat inconsistent, but if you do your workouts in cycles like that, you should produce the results you want at the end.

Also, it's important to eat lots of protein and good carbs when bulking, and then protein and fiber when cutting with minimal carbs

 

[RikidyBones]

Bmi is trash. As long as you feel good and you eat right more often than not, you're fine.

With that being said, i need to get my fat ass back in the gym.

 

[DeekT]

Did you do a cutting phase as well? When you are trying to add muscle mass, you should do it in two phases a bulking phase, where you concentrate on slow, high weight reps with alternating cardio every other day with sprints and distance runs, followed by a cutting phase where you do low weight, high reps with a strong cardio regimen every day. This increases your muscle mass and tones you out while reducing your body far %. With larger individuals, BMI is somewhat inconsistent, but if you do your workouts in cycles like that, you should produce the results you want at the end.

How much time do you spend in each phase (days, weeks) and do you continuously alternate between them?

 

[volssam]

Did you do a cutting phase as well? When you are trying to add muscle mass, you should do it in two phases a bulking phase, where you concentrate on slow, high weight reps with alternating cardio every other day with sprints and distance runs, followed by a cutting phase where you do low weight, high reps with a strong cardio regimen every day. This increases your muscle mass and tones you out while reducing your body far %. With larger individuals, BMI is somewhat inconsistent, but if you do your workouts in cycles like that, you should produce the results you want at the end.

See, you experts....ha

I have been kind of doing some of all of that all at once. I typically run at least two days a week (usually 4 - 5 miles). And three days a week I have been doing a mix of pull-ups, push ups, resistance (both high weight/low reps and vice versa), and abs.

Some weeks I do both resistance and cardio every workout day.


Not following a super specific regimen. But I have been getting results (stronger and muscle bulk). Would like a little more ab definition. I mean I have some definition there ( like a 5 pack. Haha) but would like even more. I don't have a ton of self-control with my eating. That's historically been a main reason why I exercise. So I can eat well (well meaning taste and amount....not well meaning healthy. )

 

[LurtzVol109]

How much time do you spend in each phase (days, weeks) and do you continuously alternate between them?

I would start 2 weeks and 2 weeks, I usually do 3 and 3. Diet is important high protein and good carbs for bulking, protein and fiber cutting with minimal carb intake for however intense your workouts are

 

[BJHSVol]

How much time do you spend in each phase (days, weeks) and do you continuously alternate between them?

Not OP, but I always do at least a month but it all depends on your goals. I always do it based on the mirror, if I look like I lost a good amount of fat I'll switch to a bulk, or if I feel like I gained too much fat I'll go back to cut.

The length of each phase really depends on how disciplened you are with your eating. If you eat too much while bulking you're gonna add more fat than muscle and then have to spend more time cutting when you decide to. A good rule of thumb is if you're gaining more than a lb a week when bulking youre eating too much and gonna end up with more fat than muscle

 

[Tennessee Golfer]

Not OP, but I always do at least a month but it all depends on your goals. I always do it based on the mirror, if I look like I lost a good amount of fat I'll switch to a bulk, or if I feel like I gained too much fat I'll go back to cut.

The length of each phase really depends on how disciplened you are with your eating. If you eat too much while bulking you're gonna add more fat than muscle and then have to spend more time cutting when you decide to. A good rule of thumb is if you're gaining more than a lb a week when bulking youre eating too much and gonna end up with more fat than muscle

When did you graduate from Bob Jones?

 

[DeekT]

Thanks for the responses. I will probably start with the 2 week cycle and adjust using the mirror test. I've never had a problem eating healthy but with the amount that I eat.

 

[VolGee4]

Bmi is trash. As long as you feel good and you eat right more often than not, you're fine.

With that being said, i need to get my fat ass back in the gym.

This is the way I feel. The experts know alot, and some get paid to help individuals who need it.

But, I choose to go the simple route. I just decided in March to cut out soft drinks and cut back on fried foods and bread. I run 4-5 days a week up to 6 miles. I haven't been on a scale in months, but my suit pants started sagging, and I needed a new belt. Feel much better.

 

[LurtzVol109]

This is the way I feel. The experts know alot, and some get paid to help individuals who need it.

But, I choose to go the simple route. I just decided in March to cut out soft drinks and cut back on fried foods and bread. I run 4-5 days a week up to 6 miles. I haven't been on a scale in months, but my suit pants started sagging, and I needed a new belt. Feel much better.

I always support people doin at least a little. If what you are doin makes you happy, power to ya. I just give advice whenever someone wants to dive a little deeper in.

 

[volssam]

I'm not disciplined enough to maintain a healthy diet long term. More than that, I don't think it's worth it. To me personally anyways. I am seriously almost miserable after maybe 3-4 days of a restrictive diet. As long as I am not fat and/or don't receive bad medical results, then i don't want to deny myself good (again taste and amount) food. I guess maybe I won't ever get the full results I want. Sigh. Ha

 

[LurtzVol109]

I'm not disciplined enough to maintain a healthy diet long term. More than that, I don't think it's worth it. To me personally anyways. I am seriously almost miserable after maybe 3-4 days of a restrictive diet. As long as I am not fat and/or don't receive bad medical results, then i don't want to deny myself good (again taste and amount) food. I guess maybe I won't ever get the full results I want. Sigh. Ha

As long as the body of work offsets the intake, you should be good

 

[American_PitVol]

Question for you guys who have been workout gurus for years:


How do you make peace with being borderline "overweight" based on the BMI scale? Or am I the only OCD-afflicted idiot who this bothers?

I have been a scale-watcher for many years, making sure I stayed in a certain weight range (like I said, OCD). My wife kept hinting or sometimes outright telling me she would like me to gain some weight/muscle. Anyways, I have started working out and gaining some muscle mass. And so of course that means my weight has gone up as well. Which is hard for me to watch with my OCD. But I am trying to deal with it. My wife likes the new look. Ha

But now, based on the BMI formula, my weight puts me right at the 25 limit where one is typically considered "overweight".

Anyways, do you guys just not pay attention to stuff like that? I guess they're kind of just arbitrary numbers, but still....

BMI is garbage. Go by the way your clothes fit and how you look. Or how your wife looks at you!

 

[PassedOutAwake]

Rocky Top Insider ‏@rockytopinsider 2m2 minutes ago
A little sneak peek of the new Nike font courtesy of JC Penney in Murfreesboro. RT@cbrentv3: @rockytopinsider

 

[VolGee4]

I always support people doin at least a little. If what you are doin makes you happy, power to ya. I just give advice whenever someone wants to dive a little deeper in.

I understand, and your expertise is valuable to certain people. It wasn't meant as a knock on anyone.

Of course, I am not interested in being a body-builder, but I have always viewed health in simple terms. Don't indulge too much in bad foods (which are increasing these days), cardio, and every so often do some weight/resistance training. If you maintain that lifestyle, you will be fine.

 

[VolGee4]

I'm not disciplined enough to maintain a healthy diet long term. More than that, I don't think it's worth it. To me personally anyways. I am seriously almost miserable after maybe 3-4 days of a restrictive diet. As long as I am not fat and/or don't receive bad medical results, then i don't want to deny myself good (again taste and amount) food. I guess maybe I won't ever get the full results I want. Sigh. Ha

When you get to your desired weight, you just maintain. I know it's easier said than done. But, you can eat things that you want, and it's also about portion control. You can eat 3 pieces of pizza; just don't eat 6.

I really found that the liquid calories were a majority of my problem. Cut out those (aside from some weekend drinks), and you can eat much of what you want.

 

[85SugarVol]

Rocky Top Insider ‏@rockytopinsider 2m2 minutes ago
A little sneak peek of the new Nike font courtesy of JC Penney in Murfreesboro. RT@cbrentv3: @rockytopinsider

Awful

 

[KokoBVol]

Rocky Top Insider ‏@rockytopinsider 2m2 minutes ago
A little sneak peek of the new Nike font courtesy of JC Penney in Murfreesboro. RT@cbrentv3: @rockytopinsider

Is that shirt red ?

 

[PassedOutAwake]

Is that shirt red ?

 

[chavisut]

Question for you guys who have been workout gurus for years:


How do you make peace with being borderline "overweight" based on the BMI scale? Or am I the only OCD-afflicted idiot who this bothers?

I have been a scale-watcher for many years, making sure I stayed in a certain weight range (like I said, OCD). My wife kept hinting or sometimes outright telling me she would like me to gain some weight/muscle. Anyways, I have started working out and gaining some muscle mass. And so of course that means my weight has gone up as well. Which is hard for me to watch with my OCD. But I am trying to deal with it. My wife likes the new look. Ha

But now, based on the BMI formula, my weight puts me right at the 25 limit where one is typically considered "overweight".

Anyways, do you guys just not pay attention to stuff like that? I guess they're kind of just arbitrary numbers, but still....

BMi is the dumb

 

[chavisut]

That new font gets worse every time I see it.