Recruiting Forum Football Talk XXIX

[AAVFL]

Yes I also think Berry is better than McDowell. McDowell was awful agaisnt Georgia and A&M. Jumper has played outside before

He has had his struggles. That Nuata TD sticks in my mind he looked so lost and slow trying to catch up to him I was shocked. Makes you wonder if Jumper is actually faster than Cortez.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Kelly has shown flashes, and we we will add Chandler. The WR's stay the same.

The OL can certainly improve if healthy. Tatum and Richmond won't get worse.

The DL will basically be the same up the middle, and we will need Phillips and Kongbo to improve as ends. The LB's will be fine, and we have no idea about Sapp because he hasn't played there yet.

We do need the CB's to improve.

But, it's not any different than any other year. Players leave and new ones emerge. That's college athletics. Alabama will lose at least 5 of their front 7 and Eddie Jackson. Their 5 star depth will fill in, but I have never heard of their backups. They will emerge just like our guys will.

I understand that but I'm not seeing the star power. Kelly I think will be very good. I think JG will be at least as good as Dobbs. Most programs don't rely on trues freshmen. I 'm not saying we going to hell in a hand basket, I just don;t see us making up any ground against Alabama. Unfortunately, any goals beyond an SEC east championship runs through them and we unlike any other SEC east team, we have to play them twice to win the SEC and have a chance at the playoff.

Go look at the roster, many of the juniors and sophomores that we had high hopes for are basically non-factors. The juniors especially should be contributing especially at LB and they are not.

 

[Catbone]

Kelly has shown flashes, and we we will add Chandler. The WR's stay the same.

The OL can certainly improve if healthy. Tatum and Richmond won't get worse.

The DL will basically be the same up the middle, and we will need Phillips and Kongbo to improve as ends. The LB's will be fine, and we have no idea about Sapp because he hasn't played there yet.

We do need the CB's to improve.

But, it's not any different than any other year. Players leave and new ones emerge. That's college athletics. Alabama will lose at least 5 of their front 7 and Eddie Jackson. Their 5 star depth will fill in, but I have never heard of their backups. They will emerge just like our guys will.

DT will not be the same. We are down 2 starters

 

[SeanJean]

Berry was our best defender not named Barmett against Bama

Go rewatch the highlights. He was wildly out of position on almost every big play Bama had out of the backfield.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Man it's tough in here with the sky is falling mentality

 

[AAVFL]

Berry was our best defender not named Barmett against Bama

He did some good things but if you rewatch the game he got out of position a lot and flew down the line too much while letting hurts run by him.

 

[BruinVol]

Go rewatch the highlights. He was wildly out of position on almost every big play Bama had out of the backfield.

I am not saying he played great just better than the rest. 9 tackles and 3 for a loss is pretty good

 

[Catbone]

Maybe the players took it so easy during the summer and fall their bodies weren't accustomed to being hit. Idk

 

[JCP201]

Are you serious, Clark?

Tennessee LB Jalen Reeves-Maybin says he's done for the year, may try to obtain medical redshirt

 

[AV_12]

Yeah he made a couple of tackles, but you don't think Berry was awful against Bama? Their entire backfield is still running I think.

Lol he wasn't awful at all

 

[VolGee4]

DT will not be the same. We are down 2 starters

????? Next year?

DOB was graduating regardless. We will have McKenzie, Tuttle, A. Johnson, Picou, Vickers, along with the incoming freshmen.

 

[Catbone]

????? Next year?

DOB was graduating regardless. We will have McKenzie, Tuttle, A. Johnson, Picou, Vickers, along with the incoming freshmen.

Oh I thought you meant vs SCAR my bad

 

[RiseToTheTop]

DT issues really won't show up against Carolina. They are one of the worst offensive teams you will ever lay eyes on in cfb. In every single aspect.

 

[BruinVol]

DT issues really won't show up against Carolina. They are one of the worst offensive teams you will ever lay eyes on in cfb. In every single aspect.

So are all of our remaining opponents in the regular season

 

[VolGee4]

I understand that but I'm not seeing the star power. Kelly I think will be very good. I think JG will be at least as good as Dobbs. Most programs don't rely on trues freshmen. I 'm not saying we going to hell in a hand basket, I just don;t see us making up any ground against Alabama. Unfortunately, any goals beyond an SEC east championship runs through them and we unlike any other SEC east team, we have to play them twice to win the SEC and have a chance at the playoff.

Go look at the roster, many of the juniors and sophomores that we had high hopes for are basically non-factors. The juniors especially should be contributing especially at LB and they are not.

The only two LB's that aren't contributing are Bryant and Bates. Elliott Berry should be better. But, we will have Kirkland, McDowell, Jumper, Sapp, Bituli, and who knows about Blakely.

We just signed a good class in 2016. Byrd, B. Johnson, Warrior, Buchanan, Bituli, Osborne should all improve.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Any way we can get Peyton to serve the film reviewer role for us that's sarkisian does for the gumps?

 

[AAVFL]

Any way we can get Peyton to serve the film reviewer role for us that's sarkisian does for the gumps?

Speaking of Peyton if the NCAA allows us to add a 10th Ast Coach would he be the first call Butch should make to be a QB coach?

 

[WriterVol]

I had to pause the game at half time, looked at the score @ 7, went home and immediately deleted it.

Honestly, I'd just delete it from your DVR. There was nothing even remotely worth watching in the 2nd half. It was a beatdown, and our offense did nothing whatsoever and was as vanilla as could be.

But how can I advocate for the firing of coaches or the continuation of narratives if I do not have an informed opinion? :rofl:

 

[RiseToTheTop]

So are all of our remaining opponents in the regular season

True but I'm starting w the next game. Carolina may be the worst of all them.

 

[jspvol76]

Speaking of Peyton if the NCAA allows us to add a 10th Ast Coach would he be the first call Butch should make to be a QB coach?

 

[BruinVol]

True but I'm starting w the next game. Carolina may be the worst of all them.

Maybe but their defense worries me slightly. Hopefully we will be In a good state mentally or that game might be close

 

[vol2002]

I understand that but I'm not seeing the star power. Kelly I think will be very good. I think JG will be at least as good as Dobbs. Most programs don't rely on trues freshmen. I 'm not saying we going to hell in a hand basket, I just don;t see us making up any ground against Alabama. Unfortunately, any goals beyond an SEC east championship runs through them and we unlike any other SEC east team, we have to play them twice to win the SEC and have a chance at the playoff.

Go look at the roster, many of the juniors and sophomores that we had high hopes for are basically non-factors. The juniors especially should be contributing especially at LB and they are not.

You need to lay off the panic button. Saturday was an embarrassment to be sure but the injuries are what they are. They explain the size of the loss. Period. If we had a bye week and no injuries that is a much much different game. Period. I've heard now multiple analysts express the same view. It was a perfect storm for us. In fact, Barret Sallee (I believe) on Twitter and some others predicted it before the game for those reasons (injuries, emotional exhaustion).

Bama leaves that that game with a high risk of being overrated. They are good, no doubt. But they aren't 49-10 good. I won't be surprised if they don't win a title this year. Hurts can't throw. He should have torched our secondary with their receiver talent and our injuries but he looked pedestrian to say the least as a passer.

 

[SeanJean]

I am not saying he played great just better than the rest. 9 tackles and 3 for a loss is pretty good

Yeah, I agree that he made a few nice tackles in the backfield, but he also had a lot to do with a handful of huge runs. It's hard to say anyone played better than the rest other than Barnett considering our defense played about as poorly as it has under this coaching staff.

 

[InVOLuntary]

The only two LB's that aren't contributing are Bryant and Bates. Elliott Berry should be better. But, we will have Kirkland, McDowell, Jumper, Sapp, Bituli, and who knows about Blakely.

We just signed a good class in 2016. Byrd, B. Johnson, Warrior, Buchanan, Bituli, Osborne should all improve.

So you think the expectations for next year should be as high as they were this year?

 

[SeanJean]

Lol he wasn't awful at all

He was so out of position on a lot of plays he might as well have been on the sideline.