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The Breakerboy said:
Bowling Green game Berry wasn't getting any help from Moseley. Kelly Jr. also came in and stopped all the over the top stuff. And TKjr was in much better position versus passes than any other safety on the team.
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This.

He also made tackles on run plays outside the box closer to the LOS, instead of 6-8 yds down the field.
 
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The Breakerboy said:
Bowling Green game Berry wasn't getting any help from Moseley. Kelly Jr. also came in and stopped all the over the top stuff. And TKjr was in much better position versus passes than any other safety on the team.
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Agreed. Never understood the criticism of Kelly Jr. Kid is always around the ball. Does anyone from last year's team have more picks than him?
 
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Besides our games vs Florida and Oklahoma, this UNI game is the biggest choke I've ever seen. Absolutely unbelievable.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
They were weaknesses. It usually takes watching the games 2-3 times to see all their mistakes. They missed tons of tackles that led to huge runs. Randolph totally whiffed on Kelvin Taylor in the swamp that led to Florida's first score. McNeil totally whiffed on Sony Michel in the Georgia game setting up another score for them.

Foreman and Moseley killed us on pass defense. But Randolph and McNeil killed us on run defense. Bad angles and poor tackling by them led to too many big plays.
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Huge weaknesses is still an overstatement. Others here have pointed it out, but the mistake you're making is assuming that a player who doesn't look like a first round pick or an All American is garbage and a huge liability.

Yeah, McNeil and Randolph missed some plays because they're not elite athletes. Sutton, Martin, Foreman, Moseley, and pretty much everyone who played in our secondary in 2015 also missed some plays. Lots of guys miss on plays sometimes. It doesn't automatically make them a garbage player or a "huge weakness." If someone used your exact logic, applied it to Dobbs and throws he missed in 2015, and called him a huge weakness and "garbage," then you'd flip your wig.

I guess what I'm really disagreeing with is your diction. I think it would be fair to say neither of them was a strength. Huge weakness is an overstatement. Our safeties were a huge weakness in 2012. Justin Coleman was a huge weakness playing outside in 2013. Neither Randolph nor McNeil were on that level in 2015.
 
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volunteerfan said:
I always thought that Mosley and foreman were liabilities. I always thought thought that tkjr was the best safety we had on the team
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I didn't fret when it seemed we had lost McNeil. Berry had been reported as a force back there during the Spring. When the minutes became official, our D appeared to play better with both Randolph and McNeill on the field...plenty of frustration accompanied with that observation.
 
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I know our expectations should be high, and I know there are truly only a handful of elite programs in women's basketball. However, Holly has made 2 Elite Eight's and 2 Sweet 16's in her last and only four years. I am guessing Geno, Mulkey, McGraw, and Frese are the only other ones that will do that. The only difference is that all of the others have at least a Final Four appearance and maybe even a final game one.

We want to compete for championships, but it's tough to think that is something to be fired over.
 
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I like the LVs chances against OSU. Beating ASU on their home floor showed grit. I always thought if they could make it to the Sweet 16, they'd advance to the Elite Eight. Let's do it!
 
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LA Vol said:
I like the LVs chances against OSU. Beating ASU on their home floor showed grit. I always thought if they could make it to the Sweet 16, they'd advance to the Elite Eight. Let's do it!
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This team definitely loves being in the underdog role. They will be the rest of the tournament, so it will be interesting to see what they do. I'm still not sold on Holly, but know that there is zero chance she is gone now.
 
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VolGee4 said:
I know our expectations should be high, and I know there are truly only a handful of elite programs in women's basketball. However, Holly has made 2 Elite Eight's and 2 Sweet 16's in her last and only four years. I am guessing Geno, Mulkey, McGraw, and Frese are the only other ones that will do that. The only difference is that all of the others have at least a Final Four appearance and maybe even a final game one.

We want to compete for championships, but it's tough to think that is something to be fired over.
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Holly has been with the VOLS since the 1800's and it would be like getting rid of family (More a Fulmer situation than a Dooley one) I think that there could be better coaches with this talent, but she hasn't done anything to be fired.
 
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Brillovol said:
That was a bigger choke job. Unbelievable.
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Hilarious that he equates the greatest comeback in the history of the college basketball tournament to two games that don't rank in the top 100 of college football history.

Just finding more reasons to trash the Vols. Those two losses are probably not even in the top 10 of college football comebacks from last year alone. Our Georgia comeback was bigger. Oh, and spare us the "ignore me then" statement and the "I'm so negative schtick."
 
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SmokinBob said:
They actually looked like Lady Vols! Woot Woot!
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I agree. Holly's got to let them run and use the single post player sets for them to win. That was their best overall game of the season IMO, especially Mercedes. ASU helped them by not playing a zone, which was really dumb if they watched any film at all. It was very encouraging if Holly will keep letting them play that way. It's their identity as a roster to run.
 
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JCP201 said:
Holly has been with the VOLS since the 1800's and it would be like getting rid of family (More a Fulmer situation than a Dooley one) I think that there could be better coaches with this talent, but she hasn't done anything to be fired.
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This.

She gets another year or two to prove herself IMO, especially with the lawsuit hanging over UT's head. They need the program stability. She's made the Sweet 16 in a down year. The key for survival is to sign a couple stars for an incoming class when there are zero commits at this point. Maybe this will help.
 
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Patrick Brown@patrickbrownTFP:
In his last eight games with the Heat, former Vol Josh Richardson is shooting a ridiculous 73 percent (22 of 30) on 3-pointers.
 
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flowd82 said:
Patrick Brown@patrickbrownTFP:
In his last eight games with the Heat, former Vol Josh Richardson is shooting a ridiculous 73 percent (22 of 30) on 3-pointers.
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Hey, Steph Curry...

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