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Saban did kick off those 4 Bama players that were involved in the robberies a few years ago. I fully expect Hootie Jones to be back but are there any specific examples of Saban ignoring something as close to as serious as this?
 
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BJHSVol said:
Saban did kick off those 4 Bama players that were involved in the robberies a few years ago. I fully expect Hootie Jones to be back but are there any specific examples of Saban ignoring something as close to as serious as this?
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He re-signed Pettway after he was kicked off for the robbery and went to Juco.

I believe he also took a chance on the DT who was kicked out of UGA for multiple cases, maybe even domestic assault. But he never even played at Bama after getting in trouble again. I believe a very good DB got a DUI (maybe even more than that), and I don't think he was punished much. It appears to me that Saban finds a way to keep his stars.
 
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Great time at caravan last night! Butch said they want Kahlil to get down to 315 lbs! And that he would know more on Shy in 3-4 weeks. Anyone know more on Shys rehab? I'm preparing myself for him to not be ready come September. But hoping for the best.
 
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orangeblood79 said:
The truth is somewhere in between his comment and yours. I don't think anyone can truly state that Hubbs has full autonomy in what and how he reports but I think his opine concerning how much of an impact has had on recruiting is closer to the truth than Larry's. I simply do not buy that 16-18 year old football recruits keep up with it, much less actually allow it to be a factor in where they play football for the next 3-5 years.

Wins, staff, depth at their respective positions, overall talent on the team, facilities, national exposure, ability to translate to the NFL...these are all more important to the lion's share of recruits. It's a factor for some but not many, I'd wager.
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I agree about the recruit. However, mom and dad are us and they do their research everywhere they can. Additionally, family members are more than willing to share negative reports and information in an attempt to shape the recruits school choice.
 
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LA Vol said:
Like many states, Louisiana has pretrial diversion for first offenders. If Robinson is eligible, and it appears he is, he can enter a plea under the appropriate article of the Louisiana Criminal Code, and if he fulfills the conditions required, he will avoid criminal conviction.

The question is, if there is no felony charge or conviction, will Saban dismiss a Top 10 draft prospect at a position of critical need?
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They allow diversion for a felony?
A weapons charge?

Would not have expected Louisiana to be that lax...
 
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VolsDoc81TX said:
They allow diversion for a felony?
A weapons charge?

Would not have expected Louisiana to be that lax...
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Tennessee allows for diversion for some felonies. I have done it for my clients many times. However, most, if not all, of the felony gun charges do not allow for diversion. In Tennessee, as long as you aren't a convicted felon, a simple carrying of a firearm without a permit is a misdemeanor.
 
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VolGee4 said:
Tennessee allows for diversion for some felonies. I have done it for my clients many times. However, most, if not all, of the felony gun charges do not allow for diversion. In Tennessee, as long as you aren't a convicted felon, a simple carrying of a firearm without a permit is a misdemeanor.
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What about carrying the firearm and weed? Is the combo what makes it a felony?
 
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VolsnCards5 said:
The gun was stolen, that's the felony
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The norm in most states. Many times that charge is reduce if it's not attached to another felony. You would be surprised that many stolen guns are purchased at legit places like pawn shops and gun shows.


CR will play for Bama again this season.
 
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I'm not a Louisiana criminal lawyer but:

Illegal possession of stolen firearms is the intentional possessing, procuring, receiving, or concealing of a firearm which has been the subject of any robbery or theft under circumstances which indicate that the offender knew or should have known that the firearm was the subject of a robbery or theft.

So the only felony charge requires proof that Robinson knew the gun was stolen and intentionally carried/concealed it anyway. The gun was reported stolen in Alabama. So the DA will decide whether or not he can make a case—or whether he will accept a plea from a first time offender.
 
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***RoadVol*** said:
What about carrying the firearm and weed? Is the combo what makes it a felony?
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Depends on how much marijuana. If it's a misdemeanor amount, then it's a misdemeanor gun charge. If it's a felony amount, then Tennessee has a relatively new gun law that is harsh. It carries 100% time and no probation.

My understanding is that the felony is based on a stolen gun. That is just treated like a theft case, which allows for diversion or probation.
 
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