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Face, good post but I'm not going to quote the whole thing on mobile.

I think you are on to something with the flow theory. I also think the coaches know what plays to call to get him in the flow. I think that has been a deliberate part of the game plan so they don't show their hand.

In fact my theory on the other big contributor to our lack of offense is that we've been calling plays that aren't practiced as much as the more complex plays we will start seeing Saturday. Since these sort of simple plays aren't practiced as much, the players, especially the oline and qb have been thinking too much which has slowed them down. That coupled with not getting Dobbs into a rhythm have made us look inept at times. If my theory is right we will see a different looking team this Saturday when they start using the plays they have practiced the most.

Hope I'm right.
 
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He is a one cut guy. Mostly a straight forward runner. You honestly think the coaches wouldn't put him back there and not risk Cam if he was every bit as good? He isn't nearly as good laterally. If you take the time to go back and watch, almost every move he makes is a one cut and go. AK is far superior laterally, which is required in punt returning far more than kick returning.
 
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Face, good post but I'm not going to quote the whole thing on mobile.

I think you are on to something with the flow theory. I also think the coaches know what plays to call to get him in the flow. I think that has been a deliberate part of the game plan so they don't show their hand.

In fact my theory on the other big contributor to our lack of offense is that we've been calling plays that aren't practiced as much as the more complex plays we will start seeing Saturday. Since these sort of simple plays aren't practiced as much, the players, especially the oline and qb have been thinking too much which has slowed them down. That coupled with not getting Dobbs into a rhythm have made us look inept at times. If my theory is right we will see a different looking team this Saturday when they start using the plays they have practiced the most.

Hope I'm right.

Thanks. I hope you're right too. Just solely based on what schemes were like last year, I have to believe there's more to it. If not, there's some real problems. I do think we'll see the playbook opened, I just hope the lack of running those plays in games this year doesn't cause it's own problems.
 
That was a helluva post Face, makes a lot of sense. Sure hope the training wheels come off and Dobbs gets in the flow early and often.
 
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That was a helluva post Face, makes a lot of sense. Sure hope the training wheels come off and Dobbs gets in the flow early and often.

I think they could stay in a groove if they just play. Just go play ball boys and beat some lizard azz!!!
 
I agree. They're about to face the best defense they've seen all year, by a mile. And with a backup scrub QB and possibly without their only playmaker at WR. I like our chances.

I hope Callaway plays. He's not a WR that just dominates CBs. He makes plays but you can shut him down too. I want the least amount of excuses as possible. Martin needs to get his head around this game. He's in position for picks. Ball is hitting him in the back of his numbers.
 
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I hope Callaway plays. He's not a WR that just dominates CBs. He makes plays but you can shut him down too. I want the least amount of excuses as possible. Martin needs to get his head around this game. He's in position for picks. Ball is hitting him in the back of his numbers.

Martin might not be playing as much as he did the 1st 2 games. Moseley beat him out in weekly practice competition going into the Ohio game. I don't even know if Martin saw the field last game.

I think that's why he put out that Twitter comment about our fans. He was actually mad at CBJ for not playing him. Martin is a better talent no doubt than Moseley but somehow he got beat out by Moseley in practice.

Martin needs to be in there though but I don't know the situation with him now other than he's backing up Moseley.
 
Dobbs. One of the most electric players at Tennessee in a long time. Done some things that were pretty special. 2014 SC at SC, scores 14 points in a few minutes, playing totally out of his mind, then wins in OT. Would be the difference maker in going to a bowl. 2015 UGA at home, leads a dramatic comeback, seemingly unstoppable when he wanted to make a play. 2015 UF in the swamp, rips off a 60 yard run like he's playing in the back yard.

Great ambassador for the school, great role model for kids, great team leader. Maybe too great.

Dobbs has some downsides, too. His "CEO-ness" affects the whole team.

You see, CEOs set the tone at the top (a key concept) of an organization. If the CEO inspires people, is passionate about the mission, and wants to lead others to be the same, over time the organization seems to have a spontaneous generation of exceptional ideas. Smashing expectations quarter after quarter. The same is true on the opposite side. If the CEO doesn't believe in the product or service, doesn't enjoy the mission, or simply lacks visions and passion, it becomes every man for himself in the organization.

Here's where this becomes a bit of speculation on my part. This isn't about blame, judging, or criticizing. It's observation and an attempt to understand what we've seen on the field the past few years, and the last three games. If you disagree, that's ok with me. This isn't canon.

Dobbs sets the tone for this team,
on both sides of the ball. When the offense gets out of rhythm, it usually includes a few wild throws. But not gunslinging wild throws.. it's throws like mid throwing motion a girl in a bikini with beer and pizza walks by. It's a "what was that?" throw. Short drive. Punt. Defense struggles to get off the field... until it's crunch time.

The Vols are 3-0 because they when they had to make plays in both sides of the ball, they did.

How many drives have they stopped the other team in the red zone and forced a field goal or no score, or forced an underdog team with nothing to lose to go for it on 4th down? I don't know the stats. It may not be that great, but it FEELS (again... key) like a lot.

We've watched this miserable offense running on fumes sputtering on and on. Said it's the play calling. Said it's the coaching. Blamed refs, injuries, cats, dogs, wives, witch doctors, most of which have affected the outcome. But, any play can be executed for a touch down, right? It's not common, but possible.

If you go back and watch these games again, you see how bad this offense (and as a result, defense) is when they're not in sync. You also see how dynamic it can be when it's in sync. They score at will. They slice and dice defenses like a hot knife through butter. Hurd stiff arms DBs like they're children. Dobbs runs the read option so well he makes the best DEs look silly when they realize the ball isn't in the RBs gut, it's flying 15 yards down the field behind them. To top it off, as soon as the MLB and safeties focus on the would be ball carriers, Malone is 35 yards down the field about to catch a laser over the middle.

What gives? It's Dobbs. He goes in and out of this rehearsed, diligent, hard working football player that can only go as fast as his practiced motions and schemes will let him, and a freak athlete that gets in a flow and plays with instinct instead of choreography. When he gets in the zone, he looks like the best player in college football. In that state, he probably is.

Psychologists have studied this type of effect in lots of different areas over the past few decades. The layman's term for it is "flow theory." It's how rock climbers climb incredibly high rock faces with no safety lines. How snow boarders jump small canyons in the air... and land. It's how surfers skim through waves so big falling risks death. Studies have shown being in this state increases focus and productivity by 500%. If you get in flow all day on Monday, you could accomplish a whole week's of work in one day. We've all experienced it at some point. When you've gotten so focused 9 hours go by and you don't notice. That time somebody's elbow bumps the ketchup bottle off the table at the restaurant and before you realize what you've done, you caught the thing behind your back and avoided a mess. Did you try to do it, or think "I'm going to catch this thing and look like super dad." No. it just... happened. It's how the drunk guy tailgating (who science says can't possibly have the motor skills to win) goes on some impossible roll in cornhole and is unbeatable for 2 hours. It's not about trying and thinking, it's about getting out of your own way and letting it happen.

There's a few steps psychologists have found can lead to this flow state. The first step is developing enough knowledge and expertise to do the job. The second is usually a chaotic stimulus of some kind where it seems like the world is bombarding you. The third is a break. A lull.. letting your mind and body process things and calming your thoughts. The fourth is letting your instincts takeover, not thinking, forcing, or trying... just letting the flow happen for as long as it lasts. The fifth stage is a crash... your mind and body come off the high of performing at an exceptionally high level without consciously trying.

This is Dobbs. He goes in and out of flow. It's why the offense is pathetic for a few drives, then looks unstoppable, only to return to looking like a mess. Dobbs does not have the arm to be a QB that can put up points like a Chad Kelly or Deshaun Watson. He's not as fast and big as a Cam Newton or as slippery as Mike Vick. But, when he's in flow, his skill set shines because he's not relying on a practiced or even physical skill. When in flow, psychologists say your brain and body function so fluidly, there's no need for thought or word communication to accomplish its goal.. there's not even a need to set a goal or action plan. It's just happens. It flows. With a player like that with such highs and such lows, timing and game situations can majorly impact what's going on. It can win you some games, and lose you some. The key to winning big games for this Vols team is Dobbs getting into flow at moments on the game where he can capitalize. When the other team is particularly weak due to a turnover, momentum shift, or even if they take a deep breath because they're up a couple scores (for Dobbs, this seems to be something to puts him in overdrive).

Since he's the team leader and the team reflects him, they go through the same ups and downs, leading to barely edging out trash teams, but showing up in crunch time.


Obviously, there's exceptions to the rule, and there's a lot of other things at play. Coaching, play calls, disruption from the other team all are very real and impacting variables. But, at the root, the ups and downs of this team ride with Dobbs tendency to go in and out of flow.

The good thing is Dobbs usually doesn't lay an egg in big games. He shows up. The question is for how long, and in what quarters. If he can develop into a closer, where he can get into flow at will when he has to have it late in the game, Tennessee could be 7-0 and ranked number 1 in 4 weeks. Is that likely? Probably not.

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He is a one cut guy. Mostly a straight forward runner. You honestly think the coaches wouldn't put him back there and not risk Cam if he was every bit as good? He isn't nearly as good laterally. If you take the time to go back and watch, almost every move he makes is a one cut and go. AK is far superior laterally, which is required in punt returning far more than kick returning.

Cam was deadly too and so is Alvin. I'm fine with keeping him back there. But I don't believe for a second that Evan couldn't do it.

I don't buy that kickoffs and punt returns require these totally separate skill sets. That sounds like overthinking to me, sorry. I get the arguments and I've heard it. Just disagree. Many different ways and types of guys that have been successful doing both. Berry has elite speed and a nose for the end zone. He breaks tackles and follows his blockers. Im not seeing the problems you are at all. He's a great athlete.

I also wouldn't be opposed to seeing Preston Williams get a shot. Think he could do a good job and it might be a way to get him some confidence.
 
Someone finally got the Ohio game up on YouTube. I'm going to try to watch it this week. First half was very choppy for me, and I turned it off at halftime.

Prayers appreciated.
 
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