Recruiting Forum Football Talk XXX

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Man I wish some of you knew just how close it was.

I believe one day it might come out.

Too much smoke from too many guys that hear things. I believe you. I wonder how Gruden would have taken getting ripped by the local hacks? He didn't do well with it in Tampa.

 

[SpringBokVol]

Wes? That you?

Ha. I know Wes as well. But you don't see me ever defending him.

There are reasons.

 

[csprig9]

Too much smoke from too many guys that hear things. I believe you. I wonder how Gruden would have taken getting ripped by the local hacks? He didn't do well with it in Tampa.

I wish our local hacks had to deal with saban, they need a good public ass ripping

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

From what I am told, the players didn't want to do the workouts and eventually convinced Butch to run him off.

Once that happened the accountability on each player to develop and put in the work was gone.

The players let this trickle from the weight room to the practice field to the playing field.

It showed. Early and often.

Which players?

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

I wish our local hacks had to deal with saban, they need a good public ass ripping

Could you imagine how Saban would treat Wes?

 

[rallen]

Sorry guys where is the link to this article everyone is talking about.Thanks!

 

[BigZiti09]

Which players?

Don't answer that sbv. Better off not knowing.

 

[BigZiti09]

Could you imagine how Saban would treat Wes?

Guys how would we know UT is still playing football if Wes didn't go over there every day and tweet stuff????

We owe him so much for the sacrifices he makes to bring us information that otherwise would never make it to the world.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Sorry guys where is the link to this article everyone is talking about.Thanks!

About 20 pages back..

 

[rallen]

About 20 pages back..

Thanks!:hi:

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Don't answer that sbv. Better off not knowing.

Well since the article round about slams JRM, Sutton and AK, then I assume they are supposed to be the ringleaders? I don't buy that.

 

[MrVolton]

My only problem with the article is the inflammatory title.

 

[VolsnCards5]

Well since the article round about slams JRM, Sutton and AK, then I assume they are supposed to be the ringleaders? I don't buy that.

That's the part I didn't believe.

No way Sutton and JRM were slacking.

 

[McGeesPub]

My only problem with the article is the inflammatory title.

Yeah, I think that frames it as much worse than it really is. I think if the title is "Tennessee finds itself at a crossroads under Butch Jones," there isn't quite the reaction that there has been.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Yikes

Inside the failing of Tennessee Volunteers football under Butch Jones

Here it is rallen

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

That's the part I didn't believe.

No way Sutton and JRM were slacking.

IF...I mean big effin..IF that was true..it would go a long ways toward explaining this years general malaise...I just don't buy it..

 

[BigZiti09]

Well since the article round about slams JRM, Sutton and AK, then I assume they are supposed to be the ringleaders? I don't buy that.

Yeah I don't buy it either. But better off not naming specific players for stuff like this.

 

[SpringBokVol]

Well since the article round about slams JRM, Sutton and AK, then I assume they are supposed to be the ringleaders? I don't buy that.

I won't name the ones that were not mentioned but those in the article played a part.

That is why this had such an impact.

 

[SpringBokVol]

My only problem with the article is the inflammatory title.

And it isn't even written well. The headline that is.

 

[LA Vol]

You guys realize this story ran on 247, right? Some of you are acting like it ran in the Washington Post under Carl Bernstein's byline. It's not investigative journalism; it's an opinion piece on an online sports site. They're not trying to win a Pulitzer; they're trying to get clicks for ad revenue. Let it die.

 

[SpringBokVol]

IF...I mean big effin..IF that was true..it would go a long ways toward explaining this years general malaise...I just don't buy it..

Try to believe it for just a second and then think about the ups and downs of the season.

It will start to make sense.

I know we don't want to believe it but ....

 

[SpringBokVol]

Found this interesting too. You get what you pay for:

https://www.seccountry.com/sec/sec-strength-coaches-salaries

And the fact we had the open position all year and were operating under full capacity is shameful.

 

[kw3953]

Found this interesting too. You get what you pay for:

https://www.seccountry.com/sec/sec-strength-coaches-salaries

And the fact we had the open position all year and were operating under full capacity is shameful.

It all started with the Cam Sutton fumble vs App St. 🎢

Edit: Meant for this response a couple of posts above.

 

[LaagerVol]

It was a HUGE issue that had a massive ripple effect.

It was the reason we started and ended the year the way we did.

So why was he let go? Was he blamed for injuries? Clashed with players? What is the real story?

Edit* nevermind, you already answered

 

[omghulkhands]

Try to believe it for just a second and then think about the ups and downs of the season.

It will start to make sense.

I know we don't want to believe it but ....

It's a defense mechanism

Some people can't dissociate and speaking negatively about our beloved program is taken as a personal attack.