Recruiting Forum Football Talk XXXIII

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drvenner said:
You should be for the Penguins because Senators is probably one of the stupidest nicknames evah.
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The Penguin. Really. Not exactly a fearsome creature. Are you going to prom or are we gonna play some hockey?
 
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Vols4us said:
Memphis discussion:

FBI data for 2015 Most Violent: #2 Big City
FBI data for 2015 Murder Rate: #8 Big City

Insurance Journal/Neighborhood Scout (real estate data)
Top 100 Most Dangerous Cities with population size in excess of 25,000. Ranking based on number of violent crimes per every 1000 population. Reported in the following year of the stats from the year shown.
Memphis: 2015 #10 - 2016: #6
Chattanooga: 2015 #87 - 2016 #71
Jackson: 2015 #24 - 2016 #55
Nashville: 2015 #69 - 2016 #45

Knoxville and other TN cities were not listed for the years given. However, Knoxville was #100 in 2014 and is #91 so far this year. Memphis was #14 in 2014 and #10 currently as a comparison.

Back to football.
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I appreciate the support for your argument. Honesty and integrity demand that I acknowledge a well supported post like this. That being said, I think the statistics here fail to show who is getting murdered, which is a significant fact to consider. The victims of these crimes are not professionals or tourists in Memphis or elsewhere. They are generally people doing the wrong things in the wrong places and, unfortunately, bystanders lacking the good sense or socioeconomic mobility to live in safer areas. Let's stop perpetuating the lie that one place is "objectively" better than another based on bare crime statistics, as well as the myth that traveling to Memphis carries a death sentence. Not that I am accusing you of doing that at all.

End of rant. I will now return to lurker mode and hope to reach post # 200 by the year 2020.
 
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ODTVOL said:
I appreciate the support for your argument. Honesty and integrity demand that I acknowledge a well supported post like this. That being said, I think the statistics here fail to show who is getting murdered, which is a significant fact to consider. The victims of these crimes are not professionals or tourists in Memphis or elsewhere. They are generally people doing the wrong things in the wrong places and, unfortunately, bystanders lacking the good sense or socioeconomic mobility to live in safer areas. Let's stop perpetuating the lie that one place is "objectively" better than another based on bare crime statistics, as well as the myth that traveling to Memphis carries a death sentence. Not that I am accusing you of doing that at all.

End of rant. I will now return to lurker mode and hope to reach post # 200 by the year 2020.
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ODTVOL said:
I appreciate the support for your argument. Honesty and integrity demand that I acknowledge a well supported post like this. That being said, I think the statistics here fail to show who is getting murdered, which is a significant fact to consider. The victims of these crimes are not professionals or tourists in Memphis or elsewhere. They are generally people doing the wrong things in the wrong places and, unfortunately, bystanders lacking the good sense or socioeconomic mobility to live in safer areas. Let's stop perpetuating the lie that one place is "objectively" better than another based on bare crime statistics, as well as the myth that traveling to Memphis carries a death sentence. Not that I am accusing you of doing that at all.

End of rant. I will now return to lurker mode and hope to reach post # 200 by the year 2020.
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Nobody said traveling to Memphis carries a death sentence. But saying Memphis is a more dangerous place to visit and live is rooted in fact. The numbers bear it out. You can argue demographics all you want --- careful because that has its own racist undertones --- but these statistics are real and the trend is decades long.

I happen to like visiting Memphis. I've been to Graceland and Beale Street several times. I also love Corky's BBQ. That doesn't mean the numbers aren't real, though.
 
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Mike4Vols said:
Nobody said traveling to Memphis carries a death sentence. But saying Memphis is a more dangerous place to visit and live is rooted in fact. The numbers bear it out. You can argue demographics all you want --- careful because that has its own racist undertones --- but these statistics are real and the trend is decades long.

I happen to like visiting Memphis. I've been to Graceland and Beale Street several times. I also love Corky's BBQ. That doesn't mean the numbers aren't real, though.
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Don't think the argument suggested the raw numbers aren't real, or "rooted in fact".

Memphis is not unlike any other major metropolitan area (cough, cough, Nashville included). There are good parts and bad.

You are just as unlikely to be assaulted on Memphis' Beale St as you are to be on Chicago's Miracle Mile. Or Nashville's Broadway for that matter.

The violence, unfortunately for those living there, is isolated to a few distinct neighborhoods.
 
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85SugarVol said:
For the record, I have lived, and have prospered, in Memphis for 8 years now.

I ain't been murdered once.
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Are you certain? Talk to this kid often?

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ODTVOL said:
I appreciate the support for your argument. Honesty and integrity demand that I acknowledge a well supported post like this. That being said, I think the statistics here fail to show who is getting murdered, which is a significant fact to consider. The victims of these crimes are not professionals or tourists in Memphis or elsewhere. They are generally people doing the wrong things in the wrong places and, unfortunately, bystanders lacking the good sense or socioeconomic mobility to live in safer areas. Let's stop perpetuating the lie that one place is "objectively" better than another based on bare crime statistics, as well as the myth that traveling to Memphis carries a death sentence. Not that I am accusing you of doing that at all.

End of rant. I will now return to lurker mode and hope to reach post # 200 by the year 2020.
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I don't have a dog in this fight, as I haven't been near Memphis in almost a decade, but I would be interested to know what area is covered by that statistic. If it excludes some of the nice suburbs, like Germantown, it could be inflated, or conversely, if that crime statistic excludes West Memphis (the most murdery place on earth) it might be worse than the number suggests.
 
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Theshag said:
I don't have a dog in this fight, as I haven't been near Memphis in almost a decade, but I would be interested to know what area is covered by that statistic. If it excludes some of the nice suburbs, like Germantown, it could be inflated, or conversely, if that crime statistic excludes West Memphis (the most murdery place on earth) it might be worse than the number suggests.
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You want to include another state on the other side of the Mississippi River?
 
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