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Nashville's murder rate is skyrocketing. One of the largest increases in the country over the last few years.

The murder rate is still lower than it was in 2005 when the city's population was about 110,000 less than it is now.

Homicides per year:

2016 (population roughly 660,000): 84
2015: 79
2014: 41
2013: 40
2012: 62
2011: 51
2010: 60
2009: 80
2008: 74
2007: 73
2006: 81
2005 (population 550,000): 97

And it doesn't help your argument much to point Nashville's "skyrocketing" murder rate when Memphis had 228 murders last year.

http://www.commercialappeal.com/story/news/2017/04/14/memphis-murder-rate-mirrors-90s-cocaine-epidemic-level/100434738/
 
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The bigger a city gets, the more crime it will naturally have. It is really unavoidable until we start the Pre-Crime initiative.

Yeah, the raw numbers will go up in theory, but that can be misleading. The number of crimes in a any given metropolis is probably higher than a city like Memphis, but that's also because there are millions more people there.

Places like Seoul or Tokyo probably have more reported crimes annually (though it wouldn't surprise me if there are actually fewer murders), but the crime rates are wayyyyy lower. It's normal for young women to walk home alone at night without any worries or for school children to roam around unaccompanied by adults.

There are a lot of factors that go into a place having a high or low crime rate. Interestingly, one of the best indicators for crime rates is if there's severe income inequality in an area (that is, people living in poverty in close proximity to the wealthy). I don't know enough about Memphis to say whether or not that's the case with it, though.
 
Yeah, the raw numbers will go up in theory, but that can be misleading. The number of crimes in a any given metropolis is probably higher than a city like Memphis, but that's also because there are millions more people there.

Places like Seoul or Tokyo probably have more reported crimes annually (though it wouldn't surprise me if there are actually fewer murders), but the crime rates are wayyyyy lower. It's normal for young women to walk home alone at night without any worries or for school children to roam around unaccompanied by adults.

There are a lot of factors that go into a place having a high or low crime rate. Interestingly, one of the best indicators for crime rates is if there's severe income inequality in an area (that is, people living in poverty in close proximity to the wealthy). I don't know enough about Memphis to say whether or not that's the case with it, though.

I would also like to know how corporal punishment (ie caning or public beatings) for lesser crimes would affect the overall crime rate. Instead of locking people up for things like DUI/Public Intox, vandalism, minor assault, trespassing, burglary, failure to pay child support, possession, etc.... whoop the **** of a person a few times and see if they stop breaking the law. Give them their trial, pass judgment, sentence them, and then execute the sentence. Then institute a increasing punishment for multiple offenders. Canes will wear out but they are cheaper than housing a bunch of folks for petty crimes and misdemeanors in our jails and prisons.

#bringbackcorporalpunishment
#letthebeatingsbegin
#yougonnalearntoday
 
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I would also like to know how corporal punishment (ie caning or public beatings) for lesser crimes would affect the overall crime rate. Instead of locking people up for things like DUI/Public Intox, vandalism, minor assault, trespassing, burglary, failure to pay child support, possession, etc.... whoop the **** of a person a few times and see if they stop breaking the law. Give them their trial, pass judgment, sentence them, and then execute the sentence. Then institute a increasing punishment for multiple offenders. Canes will wear out but they are cheaper than housing a bunch of folks for petty crimes and misdemeanors in our jails and prisons.

#bringbackcorporalpunishment
#letthebeatingsbegin
#yougonnalearntoday

Thats great till a woman commits a crime then game over.
 
Thats great till a woman commits a crime then game over.

Just have a female available to carry out the sentence on females. Maybe a body builder or really fit female athlete would like the gig.
 
The murder rate is still lower than it was in 2005 when the city's population was about 110,000 less than it is now.

Homicides per year:

2016 (population roughly 660,000): 84
2015: 79
2014: 41
2013: 40
2012: 62
2011: 51
2010: 60
2009: 80
2008: 74
2007: 73
2006: 81
2005 (population 550,000): 97

And it doesn't help your argument much to point Nashville's "skyrocketing" murder rate when Memphis had 228 murders last year.

http://www.commercialappeal.com/story/news/2017/04/14/memphis-murder-rate-mirrors-90s-cocaine-epidemic-level/100434738/

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The murder rate is still lower than it was in 2005 when the city's population was about 110,000 less than it is now.

Homicides per year:

2016 (population roughly 660,000): 84
2015: 79
2014: 41
2013: 40
2012: 62
2011: 51
2010: 60
2009: 80
2008: 74
2007: 73
2006: 81
2005 (population 550,000): 97

And it doesn't help your argument much to point Nashville's "skyrocketing" murder rate when Memphis had 228 murders last year.

http://www.commercialappeal.com/story/news/2017/04/14/memphis-murder-rate-mirrors-90s-cocaine-epidemic-level/100434738/

I wasn't arguing "for Memphis". I know full well how many murders we had here last year. There were 195, there were 228 "homicides"...

I was responding to the poster insinuating that Nashville is all hunky dory. It's not. It's dealing with a surging murder rate.

Nashville's 2015 murder increase ranked second nationally

Nashville criminal homicides most in more than a decade

Gun violence up in Nashville as police investigate 4 murders in 4 days

Nashville homicides on pace with 2015; youth deaths are down

Not trying to compare Memphis to Nashville. Pointing out that not all is well in Camelot.
 
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Pride for the city they live in is overruling the truth of the statistics. FBI stats for that matter. Nashville is not even in the Top 100 most violent in the current year's stats. They had one bad year at #45. Memphis continues to stay in the Top 10 most years.

Not disputing the numbers, but I recall that quite a few years ago the city and county of Davidson County merged into a metro government. I can't pretend to know all parts of Davidson County, but the numbers for Memphis would look very different if it included all of Shelby County. Just something to ponder.
 
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Yeah, the raw numbers will go up in theory, but that can be misleading. The number of crimes in a any given metropolis is probably higher than a city like Memphis, but that's also because there are millions more people there.

Places like Seoul or Tokyo probably have more reported crimes annually (though it wouldn't surprise me if there are actually fewer murders), but the crime rates are wayyyyy lower. It's normal for young women to walk home alone at night without any worries or for school children to roam around unaccompanied by adults.

There are a lot of factors that go into a place having a high or low crime rate. Interestingly, one of the best indicators for crime rates is if there's severe income inequality in an area (that is, people living in poverty in close proximity to the wealthy). I don't know enough about Memphis to say whether or not that's the case with it, though.

A couple of years ago one of the two zip codes in Germantown was the wealthiest in the state.
 
Are you talking Abbott the first 48? They film that show in about 10 different cities, not just Memphis.

Years ago, I was blurred out but on that show. People also confuse "murders" with homicides. There are situations where a homicide is either justifiable or has some mitigating circumstances. Manslaughter is not murder. I don't follow the actual numbers to see how this effects them.
 
Not disputing the numbers, but I recall that quite a few years ago the city and county of Davidson County merged into a metro government. I can't pretend to know all parts of Davidson County, but the numbers for Memphis would look very different if it included all of Shelby County. Just something to ponder.

If it included all of the metro area (West Memphis) they'd be even worse.
 
I'm just talking about putting people into a cryogenic sleep for crimes they haven't committed yet on the word of a group of psychics. Nothing as ridiculous as The Purge! :crazy:

Reporting this minor infraction to the dude that changes the Pre-cog's water.
 
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