Recruiting Forum Football Talk XXXIII

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jave36 said:
If it included all of the metro area (West Memphis) they'd be even worse.
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I would never consider West Memphis as part of anything regardless if it's in a combined statistical area or not. Different laws in a different state separated by a big ass river.

The crimes per capita would go down. There is roughly 650k people in the city of Memphis, and about 950k total in the county. The crime is way less in the county, and it would bring the crime rate down.
 
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VolGee4 said:
I would never consider West Memphis as part of anything regardless if it's in a combined statistical area or not. Different laws in a different state separated by a big ass river.

The crimes per capita would go down. There is roughly 650k people in the city of Memphis, and about 950k total in the county. The crime is way less in the county, and it would bring the crime rate down.
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That's like saying Kansas City MO shouldn't be considered when evaluating Kansas City. Or Fort Mill SC shouldn't be considered when evaluating Charlotte. The laws and river have nothing to do with the overall evaluation of a city area.

For the same reason you should include all of Shelby County, you should include all of the counties in the metro area when evaluating the overall attractiveness of a city, unless there's a Trumpesque wall preventing members of one area of the metro from going to another.
 
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jave36 said:
That's like saying Kansas City MO shouldn't be considered when evaluating Kansas City. Or Fort Mill SC shouldn't be considered when evaluating Charlotte. The laws and river have nothing to do with the overall evaluation of a city area.

For the same reason you should include all of Shelby County, you should include all of the counties in the metro area when evaluating the overall attractiveness of a city.
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"Evaluation" does not equal crime rate. I don't believe crime rates are done like that. They are done based on city limits. The city of Germantown has one of the best crime rates in the state. They aren't taking in the Memphis crime rate because they share a border.

My understanding is that "statistical areas" are not done like crime rates. Heck, if you look it up, Forrest City, Arkansas is a part of the Memphis Statistical Area. I guarantee you that they are not included in the Memphis crime rate. Not the way that works.
 
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Crime will continue to go up in Nashville. That's what happens when 100+ new people move to your city every day. We can't help the fact that it is just so great of a city that everyone wants to move here. :)
 
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Maybe the Memphis conversation will stop if we can get to a new thread. I hope so because it is like having a catheter yanked out only to find out it is stuck.

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VolGee4 said:
"Evaluation" does not equal crime rate. I don't believe crime rates are done like that. They are done based on city limits. The city of Germantown has one of the best crime rates in the state. They aren't taking in the Memphis crime rate because they share a border.

My understanding is that "statistical areas" are not done like crime rates. Heck, if you look it up, Forrest City, Arkansas is a part of the Memphis Statistical Area. I guarantee you that they are not included in the Memphis crime rate. Not the way that works.
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I wasn't commenting on how the fbi tallies crime rates or how statistical areas are calculated. I don't know if they do city limits or metro area or both.

I was saying when people evaluate the attractiveness of Memphis or any other city (a component of which is crime rate), it's fair to consider the whole Metro area, good and bad counties alike. Same with any other city. Kansas City is probably statistically paradise on earth...if you leave out the MO side.
 
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Nash_Vol97 said:
Crime will continue to go up in Nashville. That's what happens when 100+ new people move to your city every day. We can't help the fact that it is just so great of a city that everyone wants to move here. :)
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I don't want to move to Nashville, and I am from there.
 
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jave36 said:
I wasn't commenting on how the fbi tallies crime rates or how statistical areas are calculated. I don't know if they do city limits or metro area or both.

I was saying when people evaluate the attractiveness of Memphis or any other city (a component of which is crime rate), it's fair to consider the whole Metro area, good and bad counties alike. Same with any other city. Kansas City is probably statistically paradise on earth...if you leave out the MO side.
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Ok. But the conversation originated with the comparison of the rankings of crime rates between Nashville and Memphis. Nashville now has a "metro" government (not how they create statistics), but they literally merged the city and county governments years ago. So, they have one unified government in Davidson County. I proposed that because of the metro government, the crime rate might be calculated for the entire county. Therefore, the two crimes rates are apples and oranges. The crime rate in Shelby County would be much lower if you include the entire county. The suburbs bring it down.

The "statistical areas" are a whole other issue. Forrest City, Arkansas is almost 50 miles from Memphis. We don't care about it. I know people are tired of this, so I will try to prohibit from posting about it. I will be leaving tomorrow for a week with my family at a nice location, so I will post less.
 
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Ok. Could we try something in lieu of the Memphis vs. Nashville debate. Anything would be better....

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I think residents of the three grand divisions can at least agree that Chattanooga is definitely the most underrated city in the state and perhaps the entire country. I love Nashville but it's getting too expensive for me. Chatt is beautiful, has everything you could want in an outdoor mountain city, is roughly equidistant from Nashville, Atlanta, and Knoxville, and has cheap flights to the beach.
 
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Aesius said:
I think residents of the three grand divisions can at least agree that Chattanooga is definitely the most underrated city in the state and perhaps the entire country. I love Nashville but it's getting too expensive for me. Chatt is beautiful, has everything you could want in an outdoor mountain city, is roughly equidistant from Nashville, Atlanta, and Knoxville, and has cheap flights to the beach.
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Screw Chattanooga!

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Aesius said:
I think residents of the three grand divisions can at least agree that Chattanooga is definitely the most underrated city in the state and perhaps the entire country. I love Nashville but it's getting too expensive for me. Chatt is beautiful, has everything you could want in an outdoor mountain city, is roughly equidistant from Nashville, Atlanta, and Knoxville, and has cheap flights to the beach.
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You ain't lying.
 
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VolGee4 said:
Ok. But the conversation originated with the comparison of the rankings of crime rates between Nashville and Memphis. Nashville now has a "metro" government (not how they create statistics), but they literally merged the city and county governments years ago. So, they have one unified government in Davidson County. I proposed that because of the metro government, the crime rate might be calculated for the entire county. Therefore, the two crimes rates are apples and oranges. The crime rate in Shelby County would be much lower if you include the entire county. The suburbs bring it down.

The "statistical areas" are a whole other issue. Forrest City, Arkansas is almost 50 miles from Memphis. We don't care about it. I know people are tired of this, so I will try to prohibit from posting about it. I will be leaving tomorrow for a week with my family at a nice location, so I will post less.
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The conversation originated when an idiot from Bartlett decided the best way to celebrate a hockey win in Nashville was to try and take a giant dump on Memphis. Pretty funny when one considers that Bartlett is by far the poorest and most lame of Memphis' suburbs. The conversation really ramped up when an intellectually dishonest poster decided to obfuscate the difference between objective and subjective criteria in an effort to further disparage this city. Conspicuously absent in this conversation is any poster crapping all over Nashville, except as necessary to demonstrate that it is not the Shangri-La it has been laboriously touted as being. The main point of this discussion was originally meant to point out that life in Memphis ain't bad if you are a working professional who enjoys low cost of living, good food, good nightlife, and a distinct, laid-back culture. Apparently, pointing this out is an affront to every orangeblooded Tennesseean that chooses to live elsewhere.
 
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Was it a National day off work today or something. I've never seen Knoxville traffic so bad on a non-game day
 
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