Recruiting Forum Football Talk XXXIV

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Also ran? Composite ranks: # 53 nationally, # 9 DT, # 1 in NC.

I meant by VN standards. KMac was #1 DT Nationally. Which made Tuttle an also ran. Was not trying to demean Tuttle whatsoever. He is one of my favorite players.
 
I have never been impressed with the D-Line play under Butch Jones. Having #9 helped out immensely and having #50 on the other side helped too. However, it just seems like our defensive line has a hard time actually tackling people in the backfield.

2014 stands out as the most impressive year for our DL under Butch to me. They got a lot of production out of Jordan Williams, Danny O'Brien, and Owen Williams at DT that year. Mixon played a bit there in spots, but they basically got by all year with 3 DTs (one and out of shape JUCO transfer and one a converted DE).


I'm hoping some of our interior guys can take the next step in 2017.
 
2014 stands out as the most impressive year for our DL under Butch to me. They got a lot of production out of Jordan Williams, Danny O'Brien, and Owen Williams at DT that year. Mixon played a bit there in spots, but they basically got by all year with 3 DTs (one and out of shape JUCO transfer and one a converted DE).


I'm hoping some of our interior guys can take the next step in 2017.

Owen Williams was a Godsend for when he played here. Always felt he was a very underappreciated player here. Not by all, but by most. Danny O...while I don't think he might have produced as much as people wanted...was a very solid D-lineman for us. I think it showed when he was no longer there too.
 
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Owen Williams was a Godsend for when he played here. Always felt he was a very underappreciated player here. Not by all, but by most. Danny O...while I don't think he might have produced as much as people wanted...was a very solid D-lineman for us. I think it showed when he was no longer there too.
O'Brien was starting to look great last year. It's a shame what happened to him
 
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O'Brien was starting to look great last year. It's a shame what happened to him

I actually thought that too. It just seemed like he was starting to come into his own. Always liked Danny.....hope he gets help and everything works out for him.
 
I finally found a thread worth posting in in the FF.

Not even a football related thread though. The Gatlin/Coleman thread has not been ruined yet. YET
 
I finally found a thread worth posting in in the FF.

Not even a football related thread though. The Gatlin/Coleman thread has not been ruined yet. YET

I actually, already posted in that one. Impressive feat(with their feet), by the UT alums
 
I actually, already posted in that one. Impressive feat(with their feet), by the UT alums

Yep. 35 and still winning in the 100m. That's impressive. Coleman is right there with him though. Once he matures a little and learns the nuances of professional running...he's gonna be a good one.

Some nice remarks from Justin about Coleman too. Something like "I was racing a younger me".

Congrats to both.
 
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I'm sure you've already read the article claiming he takes over the sprinting reign when bolt retires
 
I'm sure you've already read the article claiming he takes over the sprinting reign when bolt retires

Actually no, I haven't. I'll look for it though. Dude is 21 and already running times comparative to runners we've been following for years. He's gonna be a good one.
 
Farewell my fellow VN'ers. I've been drinking since about 12:00, but it is now time for me to get serious about it. Wife and kids are out of town and the city is yet unsoiled by me for the night.
:hi:
 
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Farewell my fellow VN'ers. I've been drinking since about 12:00, but it is now time for me to get serious about it. Wife and kids are out of town and the city is yet unsoiled by me for the night.
:hi:

Be safe, BB. It's been real and it's been fun, but it hasn't been real fun.

I kid
 
WOOOOO GET SH÷T FACED BIKER LEHGOOOOOOOO :boobies: 🍺🍷🍸🍾🍻
 
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Actually no, I haven't. I'll look for it though. Dude is 21 and already running times comparative to runners we've been following for years. He's gonna be a good one.

Dailymail UK I'm pretty sure I saw it in one of the Coleman threads
 
Farewell my fellow VN'ers. I've been drinking since about 12:00, but it is now time for me to get serious about it. Wife and kids are out of town and the city is yet unsoiled by me for the night.
:hi:

12:00? As in just today?
And you're already making the amateur mistake of hitting the town? Smh, Marines. Once you realize your mistake, maybe someone from the Air Force or Coast Guard will assist you home.








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owen williams was a godsend for when he played here. Always felt he was a very underappreciated player here. Not by all, but by most. Danny o...while i don't think he might have produced as much as people wanted...was a very solid d-lineman for us. I think it showed when he was no longer there too.

this!
 
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I agree we shouldn't take too much from the spring game.


As for the latter part, I'm not so sure our coaching staff will be thinking 1-2 years ahead (or even a half season ahead, really) in regards to the QB battle. They'll go with the guy who they can count on to not make mistakes and get them early wins and/or to 8 wins safely right now over the higher ceiling guy who might struggle initially, IMO.

I don't think Butch has enough equity to take a chance with the QB battle. If we were coming off a trip to Atlanta or a 10-12 win season, I'd think there'd be a lot of motivation for him to maybe go with Guarantano in 2017 with an eye towards making a run in 2018. As things stand, there's just not much motivation to not take the safe route with the guy they're most comfortable with.

Especially if Shoop gets the defense right and the offense doesn't have to put the team on its back like in 2016, I'm kind of expecting to see a team that plays things a bit more safely and aimed to win games by avoiding turnovers and winning the field position battle in 2017. If that's what the coaches have in mind, Dormady is likely the safe bet for at least the early part of 2017. Maybe not necessarily our best bet long term. But I don't think Butch can afford to think too far ahead right now.



Of course, all speculation on my part.

Nailed it
 
I just want to see our interior D-Line wreak havoc on the opposing O-Line like the second halves of App State, VT, and Florida games. If we can have that type of push in the middle then it will make the entire defense better. Linebackers will not have to fill HUGE holes and go one-on-one with a RB. The QB will not be allowed to step up into the pocket and our fast defensive ends will be all over his ass and the QB will have less time in general helping out the secondary.
 
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Wasn't Murphy only a 3 star because of grades? To me since he got in we just added a legit 4 star WR
 
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