Recruiting Forum Football Talk XXXIV

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So JG transfers, sits out transfer year and is eligible at his new school the same year Dormady is graduated from here? And not even considering that he could overtake Dormady at any point. Would be a dumb move and I think you know that...you're just throwing em off your back foot when you're desperate, huh? :)

What are you talking about? Why would he want to sit behind a dude if he feels he's the best QB on the team.
 
Yep. But I just don't see it happening that way in the end. too much talent and I think Butch has built a durable culture (unlike Dooley). I also thing the defense rebounds in a major way with healthy bodies. We will see!

Agreed. One of the things I'm most confident in is Shoop. Even after what happened last year I still consider him to be one of the top D Coordinators in college football. I'm thinking the defense will be pretty stout if we can stay healthy. With elite SEC talent and an upgraded coaching staff I think this team has a lot of potential. If we can split with Florida and Georgia and start off 5-1 we could be in for a heck of a fun year.
 
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How long are all of y'all going to argue about this? Who the hell cares? Let's win some damn ball games and all be happy. Go damn vols
 
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He ran 17 times for 43 yds vs Bama in 2015. Although not Michael Vick, not exactly a statue either.

Peyton Manning has a 33 yard TD run in his stats...Vinny Testaverde a 48 yarder. Both were "statues". It falls under IT HAPPENS. Cardale Jones was, is and forever will be a non dual threat pro-style QB...who beat Bama. :)
 
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How long are all of y'all going to argue about this? Who the hell cares? Let's some win some damn ball games and all be happy. Go damn vols

As long as it takes. Who cares about who on here cares? Hope we do. I am happy. Don't cuss. :)
 
Peyton Manning has a 33 yard TD run in his stats...Vinny Testaverde a 48 yarder. Both were "statues". It falls under IT HAPPENS. Cardale Jones was, is and forever will be a non dual threat pro-style QB...who beat Bama. :)

Well he ran on Bama and Wisconsin. He set the tone along with Zeke by punishing Bama. He was enough of a threat running the ball to hold a defender. Remember when Worley was running read option and they were killing our RBs. You have to hold the LB since Bama uses the LBs to help out on QBs who can hurt them.
 
I posted this on reddit a few hours ago; it fits the conversation here too.

I think for the first time since Fulmer, we're reloading and not rebuilding. We have two talented QB's, with the more polished passer in the lead. OL is a slight concern, but at least we have a stocked WR corps and a couple good backs. Our defense is too individually talented to suck on a historic level like we did last year again; hence, the S&C, DL, and Secondary coaching changes. And no matter what, Special Teams has always been a hallmark of Butch's.

Games that are non-negotiable must wins or else it's Butch's job:
Indiana State, UMass, Carolina, @Kentucky, Southern Miss, Vanderbilt.

That's six. Carolina might seem a little harsh because they're getting better, but that's exactly why it wouldn't bode well for Butch's long-term outlook. Gotta keep them down while they're down. Same story with Kentucky (who we really should have a 32-game streak against if Dooley and Bray weren't such ****heads).

Of the remaining six (GT, @UF, UGA, @Alabama, @Mizzou, LSU), I refuse to believe we don't have the talent to get at least two wins from. GT and Mizzou are the easier answers to get us to eight wins, and Florida and Georgia seem to me to be skin-of-the-teeth close. Who knows with LSU late in the season, and lolol not 'til Saban retires for Bama.

Granted, each year, Butch has dropped a game that he shouldn't have. And up until last year, he's typically won a game each season that he shouldn't have.

I think it will be a fun year, but my floor is 7-5 with the only "acceptable" loss being to Carolina from that first group, as long as we get at least one win from the latter group. Contingencies, contingencies.
 
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Those three and Fl, GA and LSU........at worst......split 3/3. That's 8-4 all day long. Which is what most have been saying. 8-4 is the floor. 7-5? Not only will Butch need to be fired but anyone who has anything to do with the Athletic Department.

Maybe my shades have gotten too orange colored, but I just can't see it. I'm having a lot of trouble seeing 8-4 as a viable option.

I'm not making excuses for Butch but a rebuild from where this program was isn't normally always an upward trajectory. There are peaks and valleys. I think the inexperience at the qb position, lack of a proven LB core, lack of a proven running back behind Kelly, and adjustment to larger than normal coaching turnover will result in a loss or two no one will see coming. I do think 8-4 should be expected but I wouldn't be surprised at 7-5 either. I don't think Butch is going anywhere at 7-5 or maybe even 6-6 (unless he leaves on his own). These are always financial decisions and financially there's no reason to fire him. Jmo
 
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I'm not making excuses for Butch but a rebuild from where this program was isn't normally always an upward trajectory. There are peaks and valleys. I think the inexperience at the qb position, lack of a proven LB core, lack of a proven running back behind Kelly, and adjustment to larger than normal coaching turnover will result in a loss or two no one will see coming. I do think 8-4 should be expected but I wouldn't be surprised at 7-5 either. I don't think Butch is going anywhere at 7-5 or maybe even 6-6 (unless he leaves on his own). These are always financial decisions and financially there's no reason to fire him. Jmo

Look at the East. UF is replacing an NFL defense. Everyone has holes and issues.

Can we get a win or two nobody saw coming?
 
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9-3 is floor. No way UF stays within 2 scores of us, regardless of home field or our unknown qb situation. Losses are to UGA, LSU, and Bama and I'm not convinced LSU can beat us. Matt Canada has a good reputation but that offense was atrocious last year. And to be honest, UGA is a toss up.

JMO...which isn't worth much.

GBO
 
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Well he ran on Bama and Wisconsin. He set the tone along with Zeke by punishing Bama. He was enough of a threat running the ball to hold a defender. Remember when Worley was running read option and they were killing our RBs. You have to hold the LB since Bama uses the LBs to help out on QBs who can hurt them.

I know I know...Dormady was genetically spliced from your default example of a pro-style QB. :)
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