Recruiting Forum Football Talk XXXIV

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Ulysees E. McGill said:
I think that is why I admire Jordan as a player so much, and pretty much all the stars of that era...Those guys earned it.
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I'm not even saying LeBron couldn't have been great in that era. He probably could have been.

I'm just saying he wouldn't be allowed to drive the lane all game back then. Like he does now.

He would have to alter his game.
 
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85SugarVol said:
Totally different game of basketball back then.

He would have immediately been met out on the wing by someone like Rodman or Pippen with a stiff forearm in his back, and a hand in his stomach if he turned around.

If he gets by them, he can expect an enforcer at the rim. Not ready to block his shot, ready to take his head off....
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Yes sir you are right. To me that's basketball though. Also, not just the Bulls example you gave but pretty much every legit contender in those days had an All-Pro Center to defend the rim.
 
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VolMike16 said:
Yes sir you are right. To me that's basketball though. Also, not just the Bulls example you gave but pretty much every legit contender in those days had an All-Pro Center to defend the rim.
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I wasn't even really talking about the Bulls, I was more referencing the Pistons and the Knicks.

Just used Scottie as a wing reference.

Oakley & Laimbeer are the classic 80's goons... ready to maul anyone that came near the rim.

Edit - I get the Bulls comment. I was actually referencing Pistons era Rodman, when he defended the wing. Not Bulls era Rodman, when he defended the block.
 
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VolMike16 said:
Yes sir you are right. To me that's basketball though. Also, not just the Bulls example you gave but pretty much every legit contender in those days had an All-Pro Center to defend the rim.
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Another rule change that has helped this generation of players, including LeBron, is defensive 3 seconds.

Back in the day you had some bad dudes just hanging out in the paint waiting for you.
 
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85SugarVol said:
These young guys don't understand how physical basketball was back then.

It's two hand touch out there these days.
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I'm 28 so I didn't see the 80s live but I'll pull a D4H reference I can watch film lol. MJ is my guy and the 90s was what I grew up in. He is the best competitor I've ever seen.
 
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85SugarVol said:
I wasn't even really talking about the Bulls, I was more referencing the Pistons and the Knicks.

Just used Scottie as a wing reference.

Oakley & Laimbeer are the classic 80's goons... ready to maul anyone that came near the rim.

Edit - I get the Bulls comment. I was actually referencing Pistons era Rodman, when he defended the wing. Not Bulls era Rodman, when he defended the block.
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Gotcha. Yeah a lot of people dont realize Rodman came into the league as a SF. That's why I believe he could match up defensively with LBJ on the perimeter, not just the post.
 
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volfanngatorland said:
Another rule change that has helped this generation of players, including LeBron, is defensive 3 seconds.

Back in the day you had some bad dudes just hanging out in the paint waiting for you.
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Lol yeah like 85 was saying you had the pistons and knicks ready to kill. I just really believe a lot of players in today's game would check out quite frequently.
 
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I couldn't stand Rodman and his antics but he was the best rebounder I've ever seen. For instance was teaching rebounding to kids I would pop in a VCR tape of Rodman.
 
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"LeBron wouldn't have stood a chance in the 70's, 80's, or early 90's. Basketball was just so physical then."

Lol. LeBron is the most physically gifted basketball player of all time. Maybe the most physically gifted athlete across any sport ever.

The rules dictate the game now, but LeBron would've been dominant in any era of basketball.
 
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The Dog said:
I have to disagree with LeBron coming in as a skinny kid. Yes, he was smaller than he is now, but he had the most ready for the NBA body, I have ever seen coming straight out of high school
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You're right. Skinny isn't the right term. But he has come a long way physically since then.

Why hold his athleticism and size against him though? It's not like he hasn't worked to develop and maintain it.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
You're right. Skinny isn't the right term. But he has come a long way physically since then.

Why hold his athleticism and size against him though? It's not like he hasn't worked to develop and maintain it.
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Oh, I agree with u completely. Like I have stated before, LeBron is the 2nd greatest basketball player, I have seen in my lifetime, behind only Michael Jordan. Btw, Jordan was very skinny, when he entered the NBA. Even Jordan admitted, he owes a lot to the Pistons for making him work harder in the weight room, so be could absorb the punishment they unleashed on him. In fact, he gives the Pistons a lot of credit for making him The Michael Jordan, we know and (most people) love. But, body wise, imo, there is no comparison between LBJ and MJ. I, also think, LeBron could have thrived in the late 80s and 90s, simply because his body would have been ideal for the more physical style of basketball played in that era
 
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Cool story bro moment:

Was at the TN Sports Hall of Fame inductee welcoming party downtown tonight. Got to meet Philip Fulmer, Al Wilson, Willie Gault, Condredge Holloway, and Chad Clifton. Ole Phil can still work a room. Him and Al Wilson were who everyone flocked to.
 
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VolunteerVandiver said:
"LeBron wouldn't have stood a chance in the 70's, 80's, or early 90's. Basketball was just so physical then."

Lol. LeBron is the most physically gifted basketball player of all time. Maybe the most physically gifted athlete across any sport ever.

The rules dictate the game now, but LeBron would've been dominant in any era of basketball.
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No one said that.

Go back and read again. Comprehension is hard.
 
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85SugarVol said:
You don't know how basketball was played back then.
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Do you all really think that Lebron could not have adapted his game to the style of play back then? Or, that MJ would not have adapted his to the way it's played now. I think that is one of the things that makes them both great. Their games are diverse enough that they could have done whatever it takes to be successful in each other's era.
 
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Nash_Vol97 said:
Cool story bro moment:

Was at the TN Sports Hall of Fame inductee welcoming party downtown tonight. Got to meet Philip Fulmer, Al Wilson, Willie Gault, Condredge Holloway, and Chad Clifton. Ole Phil can still work a room. Him and Al Wilson were who everyone flocked to.
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That is definitely a cool story bro, thanks for sharing.
 
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drvenner said:
Do you all really think that Lebron could not have adapted his game to the style of play back then? Or, that MJ would not have adapted his to the way it's played now. I think that is one of the things that makes them both great. Their games are diverse enough that they could have done whatever it takes to be successful in each other's era.
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Would Lebron even play the way he does if he came up in an earlier era? Seems like he's a product of his times. Why not take advantage of the rules as they currently stand?
 
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Dear Football,

Thank you for being such a great sport. Please come back soon so the basketball talk can stop. We're miss you very much.

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Just got my Football Time magazine in the mail yesterday. I didn't realize that Lovingood only snapped on punts, not field goals and extra points. Medford snaps on those.
 
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drvenner said:
Do you all really think that Lebron could not have adapted his game to the style of play back then? Or, that MJ would not have adapted his to the way it's played now. I think that is one of the things that makes them both great. Their games are diverse enough that they could have done whatever it takes to be successful in each other's era.
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If MJ played in this era of no touch bball, he would have been unstoppable.

I watched a lot of NBA in 80s and early 90s. Don't like all the changes. May watch highlights now, but that is about it...
 
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