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I was pretty amazed at what Bentley did last year considering he was supposed to be in middle school. By the time he actually hits puberty he will have broken most of Peyton Manning's NFL records.
 
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Volnukem said:
You don't need an athletic QB to run this offense. Our bread and butter play is, was, and will be inside zone, which only requires the QB to hand off. It isn't a read if we block the DE. If you can't run inside zone in our offense, that's on the OL, not the QB.
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The point is that if you're going to take away the running start from the RB, you need to replace it with making the defense guess who has the ball. A running back with no head start and a defense that isn't worried about the qb keeping will not work. It's not the same dynamics as having the qb under center like you're making it sound.
 
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VolGee4 said:
Someday we need a tutorial on this. I just spent some time reading about the inside zone run. So, anytime we block both ends, this it is just a straight handoff without a QB read.

I then read an article about the Iso Weak where we get the defense thinking zone run to one side and a TE blocks back on the weak side for the RB. There were two clips of Hurd running this play for big gains.

Interesting stuff and not easy when you didn't play football.
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There always needs to be a read for the DEFENSE if you're running that offense and you want it to work, even if you're blocking both DE. An RB with no running start and an LB who's keying on him needs a huge hole and perfect blocking from the OL at the second level to make anything happen.
 
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Kristy* said:
It used to be full pads on the 5th practice. Did that change? If not, today will be shells only.
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
He threw for 167 yards against us and everybody is acting like he's the next Peyton. Our defense was depleted at that point. big deal. His best game was against Missouri, a defense even worse than ours, 254 yards. Against Clemson, he went 7-17 for 41 yards with no touchdowns and one interception. 18-33 against Florida for 213 with no touchdowns and an interception. The only two decent defenses he played shut him down. Excuse me for being less than impressed because he played decent against us and Mizzou
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Someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't a lot of his yards off of a Warrior coverage bust?
 
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31VFL said:
Someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't a lot of his yards off of a Warrior coverage bust?
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If you're talking about the bomb he threw at the end of the game, it was Malik Foreman who blew it. He got to about the 15 and stopped running.
 
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Been kinda questioning his performance since before this past year. I can't think of any notable LB success outside of AJ Johnson, Maggitt, JRM, and potentially DKJr. And AJ and Curt were both Dooley players. I wonder if Thig has been complacent or something.
 
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jave36 said:
I disagree. You can't run the zone read with a qb who isn't a threat. No matter how good the RB and OL are. UF in 2013 was a perfect example. We had that great OL but couldn't move the ball at all. We put up good rushing numbers that year, but not against any of the good defenses. Sure we can out talent the non P5 teams and we did do well against UGA with Worley, but that was the lone exception of our offense working well against a decent team while we ran the read option with Worley.
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You disagree with the fact that we ran the ball?


This whole post is confirmation. There have been QBs who weren't much of a threat to run who have run zone read style spread offenses like ours just fine. Cherry picking some stats doesn't change the fact that the 2013 offense with Worley was pretty good, all things considered.

We ran for 178 against Oregon, 187 against UGA, and 146 against USCe. UF was terrible, of course. But they were top 5 in total defense that year and knew they could sell out against the run and not worry about the pass (plus there was the whole Peterman/Worley QB controversy at that point...we all remember how Peterman looked that game).
 
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jave36 said:
The point is that if you're going to take away the running start from the RB, you need to replace it with making the defense guess who has the ball. A running back with no head start and a defense that isn't worried about the qb keeping will not work. It's not the same dynamics as having the qb under center like you're making it sound.
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The running start? That doesn't make any sense. What running start? The RB is lined up at about the same depth whether in shotgun or under center. As a matter of fact, the RB has an advantage in shotgun because they don't have to find the QB for the handoff. They can keep their eyes upfield.
 
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