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Bass, don't worry if LeBron fans are threatening to black ball your credibility for jabbing them a little about their prescious King James. I know exactly what you mean and you're not wrong. For some reason people really get upset if anyone talks negative about LeBron's game. Just know that even though they threaten you into silence that the Cavs are going to get beat. We both know Michael Jordan wouldn't.
I actually dislike Lebron but I can still look at it objectively.
 
Top 5 greatest Vols on offense and top 5 greatest on defense all-time...go!
 
I hope its a sweep so we can end the discussion.

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Has anybody seen the new batch of cheerleaders? How they lookin'?

Mock is our man on the ground. If he didn't sleep through the tryouts, he should be along shortly to bring us the good news. (Bolded to be read in Herbert the Pervert voice)
 
Mock is our man on the ground. If he didn't sleep through the tryouts, he should be along shortly to bring us the good news. (Bolded to be read in Herbert the Pervert voice)

Even if I slept through it, they would still be dancing through my dreams
 
LeBron James, LeBron James, LeBron James...


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Your posts are like a black hole sucking all of the coffee out of the universe. Just a horrible, horrible reality to contemplate.

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Bass, don't worry if LeBron fans are threatening to black ball your credibility for jabbing them a little about their prescious King James. I know exactly what you mean and you're not wrong. For some reason people really get upset if anyone talks negative about LeBron's game. Just know that even though they threaten you into silence that the Cavs are going to get beat. We both know Michael Jordan wouldn't.

There's no way that you can know if Jordan would lose to this GS team or not. If you swapped Jordan out in his prime with LeBron now, there is no way that you can know. I don't think many have said that LeBron is better than MJ. It is just that Bass talks about him being over-rated every single chance that he gets.
 
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Please stop trying to compare players from different eras of sports. They play under slightly different rules and conditions. The players today are different from the plays of other decades. Trying to compare and contrast them, as anyone with eyes and the ability to read can see, is an exercise in futility. There are great players in every generation. Why can't we just enjoy watching some fantastic athletes. Praise them for what they do well and critique them for ways that they could be better. MJ had flaws just like LBJ and Steph Curry have areas of their games they can improve. Please stop comparing them though. It is fruitless and causing me to become intoxicated during work hours. Thank you in advance for helping me save my job. :hi:

EDIT: I didn't mention Kevin Durant. Please don't take that to mean that I think LBJ and Steph Curry are better or worse than him in any way.




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Top 5 greatest Vols on offense and top 5 greatest on defense all-time...go!

1. Peyton

2. Tee Martin (I know, but he did lead us to our only national championship since 1951.)

3. Jamal Lewis

4. Peerless Price

5. Travis Henry

1. Reggie White

2. EB

3. Al Wilson

4. DB

5. Kevin Burnette
 
Bass, don't worry if LeBron fans are threatening to black ball your credibility for jabbing them a little about their prescious King James. I know exactly what you mean and you're not wrong. For some reason people really get upset if anyone talks negative about LeBron's game. Just know that even though they threaten you into silence that the Cavs are going to get beat. We both know Michael Jordan wouldn't.

👍, surprised the response I've gotten lol
 
Good article on VQ about Shoop and his Defense...

Bob Shoop came to Tennessee billed as the “Mad Scientist.” Last summer, defensive back Rashaan Gaulden called Shoop “Rain Man” and linebacker Darrin Kirkland offered that Tennessee’s defensive coordinator had “a beautiful mind.” But in hindsight, Shoop admits he out-foxed himself in 2016. Injuries ravaged a defense that was ultimately historically bad last season, as Tennessee produced its worst run unit (218.5 yards per game) in school history. In November, after allowing 73 points and 1,375 yards in wins against Kentucky and Missouri, Shoop was asked if he would “go back to his lab” to fix the unmitigated disaster that was Tennessee’s defense.

“We blew up the lab this week,” Shoop immediately joked. Only the tire-fire just kept on rolling. The very next week, the Vols allowed 608 yards and 45 points to Vanderbilt, which entered the game with the nation’s No. 116 offense. Tennessee finished the season ranked No. 95 in the country in total defense (449.2 ypg) and No. 78 in yards per play (5.84). It was a steep fall from grace for Shoop, who had presided over Top 25 units for five straight years at Vanderbilt and Penn State.

“I think at the end of the year you always critique yourself doing quality control, everything from your personnel, your scheme, your philosophy, your execution,” he said Saturday at the Big Orange Caravan in Chattanooga. “I relate to Jonathan (Kongbo). I think I might have built some unrealistic expectations, and when we got guys injured, maybe the guy calling the shots was a little bit stubborn. I think I really wanted to force a fit, that, ‘This is my style of defense.’ I probably didn't do a great job at times of tailoring things.”

“Experience is the greatest teacher,” Shoop said this spring. “The three things I look at from last year: We had a little bit of drama, a lot of injuries and we gave up too many big plays," he added Saturday. "If you watch us, we’d play eight, nine, 10 snaps in a row of really good defense and then give up a long run. An exceptionally long run, or an exceptionally long pass.”

“I still want to be aggressive, but I’m going to do a better job and we’re going to do a better job of trying to identify the strengths of the unit and develop an identity sooner than later,” he said. “I don’t think we ever really found our identity last year. Maybe not until the bowl game. The bowl game was the one game we really put together that looked like my vision for the defense.”

Against Nebraska in the Music City Bowl, Tennessee allowed just 318 yards — its fewest against a Power 5 team all year. The Cornhuskers were limited offensively without their starting quarterback, but Tennessee’s defense played with a vigor not seen for most of the year. At least anecdotally, they communicated better. They executed the scheme better, and Shoop was able to dial up some of his creative blitz packages.

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1. Peyton

2. Tee Martin (I know, but he did lead us to our only national championship since 1951.)

3. Jamal Lewis

4. Peerless Price

5. Travis Henry

1. Reggie White

2. EB

3. Al Wilson

4. DB

5. Kevin Burnette

Good list

Casey Clausen and his record in big games belongs on this list.

Dale Mothereffing Jones

Haynesworth/Henderson

Alvin Harper

Willie Gault

Anthony Miller

All those OL from the 90's wow!
 
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Good list

Casey Clausen and his record in big games belongs on this list.

Dale Mothereffing Jones

Haynesworth/Henderson

Alvin Harper

Willie Gault

Anthony Miller

All those OL from the 90's wow!

It's obviously very tough. I love Casey Clausen and almost put him on the list. I love Jones too and he was very difficult to leave off. I remember all those WR too. We have had some great ones. Tough list for sure.
 
It's obviously very tough. I love Casey Clausen and almost put him on the list. I love Jones too and he was very difficult to leave off. I remember all those WR too. We have had some great ones. Tough list for sure.

I'm old so I'm partial to 80's-90's guys

Chuck Webb has to be on there
 
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1. Peyton

2. Tee Martin (I know, but he did lead us to our only national championship since 1951.)

3. Jamal Lewis

4. Peerless Price

5. Travis Henry

1. Reggie White

2. EB

3. Al Wilson

4. DB

5. Kevin Burnette

I would have to have Doug Atkins on my defensive list, so no disrespect meant to Burnette, but Atkins bumps him off on mine.
 
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I agree, Jesse is doing a very good job.

VQ is still the best in the biz when it comes to covering the Vols. 247 was the shiny new toy for a bit but now that the new has worn off people are realizing.

Bet Brice wishes he never left for greener pastures.
 
My list from mid 90's on.

Offense
1. Manning
2. Lewis
3. Henry
4. Price
5. Cosey Coleman, Chad Clifton, Scott Wells.
HM- Witten who if used more would be on the list.

Defense
1. Berry
2. Barnett
3. Wilson
4. Henderson
5. Deon Grant
HM- Little
 
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