Recruiting Forum Football Talk XXXVI

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Nashvegas31 said:
It happened I saw the tweet in my feed where he liked it. It was a funny tweet so he could have just liked it because it was clever but bad timing
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Thanks.

So we do have more to go on than just what was seen on the sidelines. Poor decision by him.
 
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drvenner said:
I will say this, based solely upon his demeanor that ESPN chose to show, and that is that JG perceived that he should be playing. That does not mean that Butch told him he would, but it is relatively clear that JG thought he should be in there. Now, most highly rated QBs believe that they are the best and that is the attitude you want in your QB, but I do suspect that something, someone said led him to believe that he was going to play. That may have been a misunderstanding on his part, but he perceived he was going to play.
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Butch told the media as much. That is why it's easy to say he was told he was playing. We all were told that.
 
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buckfama said:
Then even if it's just 1 series the conditions of the promise have been met and neither he nor any of us have any right to complain.
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What is being missed is the effect on QD. He played flawlessly on the spring game and played well in the 2nd half Monday. Imo he deserves to be treated as a starter that doesn't have to look over his shoulders. He isn't being given that luxury.
 
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BruinVol said:
What is being missed is the effect on QD. He played flawlessly on the spring game and played well in the 2nd half Monday. Imo he deserves to be treated as a starter that doesn't have to look over his shoulders. He isn't being given that luxury.
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From what I saw of the game I don't think QD will let any outside talk affect him. He seems to not get rattled easy.

It's a desirable trait in a leader and I think Butch made the right choice.
 
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BruinVol said:
No his actions Monday have very little to do with my opinion.

Not naming a Starter played games with both QBs imo. People want to look for reasons QD wasn't sharp early well it could have been nerves like many here have suggested or he could have been pressing knowing
JG was coming in any series like his coach had told the world. Plenty of reasons he should have named QD the starter and said it was his job until further notice. Still hasn't done that
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Oooor QD not being sharp early could have been because the GT pass rush was rushing QD early, or it could have been because the receivers were dropping balls, or not being where QD expected them to be on throws. Based on what Kendrick said a couple of days ago, QD was actually the calming force on the sideline when things weren't going right for the offense (which suggests to me he is a natural leader), so it is pure speculation as to QD being nervous.

FTR, I would have preferred he had named a starter before fall camp ended, but he felt it was best to wait, and likely - IMO -Canales and Scott agreed. Whether doing it that was for the benefit of the QBs, or GT, I don't know. But if JG is the type that would seriously contemplate transferring because he didn't play in Game 1 (which I don't think is the case), then he is probably not the guy that can lead this team. He will get opportunities to play this week; if he is better than JG he will get ample opportunity to prove it.
 
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When recruits have talked about what Butch has said to them, it is generally something like "Coach Jones said I could come in and earn the chance to play early". He could have easily said something like "I could see you being a 4 year starter". The key is always the "could". None of us know what was said, and honestly, I don't trust a teenager to remember the nuances of a conversation with a coach who is undoubtedly quite skilled in the use of qualifiers, weasel words, if you prefer. I will guarantee you that he says stuff like "we plan to", "we hope to", or "we want to" in most of these conversations, and kids tend to hear what they want to hear. Confirmation bias, and all that.
 
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Hate to hear about Eric Berry. More reason not to like the Patriots.

On the Hurricane subject, I don't think that Florida teams in the affected areas will be playing there for a while. Looks like Jose is coming right behind.
 
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BruinVol said:
It was said he quickly deleted it much like warrior yesterday
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He could unlike it or whatever but if it was liked people would have screen shotted the piss out of it. It would be all over the place by now.

We have screen shots of warrior's tweet.
 
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SSVol said:
When recruits have talked about what Butch has said to them, it is generally something like "Coach Jones said I could come in and earn the chance to play early". He could have easily said something like "I could see you being a 4 year starter". The key is always the "could". None of us know what was said, and honestly, I don't trust a teenager to remember the nuances of a conversation with a coach who is undoubtedly quite skilled in the use of qualifiers, weasel words, if you prefer. I will guarantee you that he says stuff like "we plan to", "we hope to", or "we want to" in most of these conversations, and kids tend to hear what they want to hear. Confirmation bias, and all that.
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Exactly. They remember hearing the playing part but don't remember the qualifiers that come with it.
 
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JCP201 said:
Hate to hear about Eric Berry. More reason not to like the Patriots.

On the Hurricane subject, I don't think that Florida teams in the affected areas will be playing there for a while. Looks like Jose is coming right behind.
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Last I saw Jose is not supposed to make landfall
 
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BigZiti09 said:
He could unlike it or whatever but if it was liked people would have screen shotted the piss out of it. It would be all over the place by now.

We have screen shots of warrior's tweet.
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I don't Twitter.. what was Warriors tweet about?
 
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BruinVol said:
Said some tennessee fans weren't loyal
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Wow.. what caused that reaction?

Edit - I see where you edited it.. I believe him. Some aren't. But that goes with every team. Bammers turned on Saban after the loss last year. It's the society we live in nowadays.
 
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SergeantVol said:
Glitch is an officer. His NCOs would have dealt with the Soldiers under him.

I have to babysit...er I mean develop young Soldiers all the time. I stress patience. Leadership and the accompanying benefits are something that's earned. When something like a promotion is promised, you lay the conditions out and frame the problem to include unforeseen circumstances. As far as something promised like days off or less work, you let them know the reality of the sitatuion and offer recompense. I think a fair recompense for JG is playing time against Indiana State. I'd tell him to ball out and show everyone why he should be the starter.
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This and a well placed "Suck it up buttercup".
 
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buckfama said:
Wow.. what caused that reaction?

Edit - I see where you edited it.. I believe him. Some aren't. But that goes with every team. Bammers turned on Saban after the loss last year. It's the society we live in nowadays.
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Warrior probably logged into the FF.
 
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