Recruiting Forum Off Topic Thread III

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Yes. I agree. It is personal. There is probably a base mine but not everything for everyone.

But justification can be slippery.
Dancing with the Stars before they started focusing too much on the Stars was great porn for me. That would make "the bachelor" an extreme anti porn for me, however a large part of society finds it highly titillating.
 
This is a bad rabbit hole to get down, but teaching kids/teens that abstinence is the best form of birth control while demonizing what some places offering real applicable birth control (planned parenthood for example) are doing to help is the most absurd thing I've seen.

Just shelf the return fire about "abortion" etc. for those winding that counter up. That's not birth control and that's not the exclusive thing PP does.
Lol, wut?

Abstinence IS the “best” form of birth control. Name another form that is 100% effective.

There are other forms, some very good ones even. But none are as effective as NOT slidin it in. That’s just the fact, Jack.
 
It's not effective if it's not realistic. News flash:



It is not.
The 2 are not mutually inclusive.

It can be 100% EFFECTIVE, while also being completely UNREALISTIC for the vast majority of the population.

Expectations of “realistic” doesn’t change the science behind the efficacy of abstinence.
 
This is a bad rabbit hole to get down, but teaching kids/teens that abstinence is the best form of birth control while demonizing what some places offering real applicable birth control (planned parenthood for example) are doing to help is the most absurd thing I've seen.

Just shelf the return fire about "abortion" etc. for those winding that counter up. That's not birth control and that's not the exclusive thing PP does.

The problem I see with the abstinence argument is that sex is made out to be dirty and horrible by many in that camp. We have tried to instill in our children that sex is a good and wonderful thing when it is enjoyed between two people in a marriage. I don't want to go down that rabbit hole. Sex is a good thing but should be reserved for the confines of marriage. I didn't wait and I regret that now. I hope to tell my kids the mistakes I made and help them avoid them, but each person will make their own choices.
 
I used to. It is not a healthy habit IMO and is not something that I partake of any more. I have three daughters and I want them to feel they are worth more than what pornography says they are worth. I will not judge anyone who chooses to look at it, because I did so myself. However, I have changed my opinion about its effect on our society and I don't see a whole lot of good that comes from it. For that reason, I stay away and try to guide my children to stay away as well.

I also think that there is probably a link between many cases of erectile dysfunction and over sexual stimulation through pornography. I have no evidence to back that up, just a gut feeling.
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Ok I admit I tend to digress into stories about the past in my posts, but how in the heck did the Recruiting Forum start talking about pornography, abortion and birth control?

I guess it's inevitable during this down time between signing day and the start of spring practice. I almost caught myself watching the combine last night when the Rangers decided to quit playing defense in the 2nd period.
 
I like @Glitch am a Christian. Doesn’t mean I’m perfect nor do I claim to be. It’s a definite no for me, pornography can be very much like a drug addiction. I think it’s a result of a lot perversion we see taking place in our culture today. Don’t @ me JMO
Throughout history "Christianity" has said A LOT of things were bad, and A LOT of things were ok. I am not talking about you in particular, but I think A LOT of people hide behind religion. They use it as a reason to be cruel, and a reason that they are kind.
 
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Throughout history "Christianity" has said A LOT of things were bad, and A LOT of things were ok. I am not talking about you in particular, but I think A LOT of people hide behind religion. They use it as a reason to be cruel, and a reason that they are kind.

Very true. Religion has been used as a shield for many horrible acts. The problem with religion is the religion is judged by the people who claim it and not everyone who claims it lives by its tenets.
 
Very true. Religion has been used as a shield for many horrible acts. The problem with religion is the religion is judged by the people who claim it and not everyone who claims it lives by its tenets.
That is so true. As I've gotten older, I made the decision to distance myself from "organized" religion. At times I regret that decision because I was raised in the Church, and that formed a great moral foundation for me. I want that same foundation for my kids. But I wrestle in how do I expose them to an environment that I don't 100% believe in.
 
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That is so true. As I've gotten older, I made the decision to distance myself from "organized" religion. At times I regret that decision because I was raised in the Church, and that formed a great moral foundation for me. I want that same foundation for my kids. But I wrestle in how do I expose them to an environment that I don't 100% believe in.

We struggle with this too. The dogma of denominational Christianity can get in the way of the true message of Christ. We make sure that we talk about what the church or my oldest's school is teaching them. We ask them what they think and generally point to exactly what it says in the Bible. It just takes the extra effort but I am proud of the young ladies my girls are becoming and I give the glory to God for all of it.
 
That is so true. As I've gotten older, I made the decision to distance myself from "organized" religion. At times I regret that decision because I was raised in the Church, and that formed a great moral foundation for me. I want that same foundation for my kids. But I wrestle in how do I expose them to an environment that I don't 100% believe in.
This was me until 2-3 years ago. And I'll admit I wasn't necessarily looking for a new church but had the same concerns about my kids.

We we're fortunate... One of my oldest kid's friends invited her to participate in a local Methodist Church's nativity scene, and she did, and she had a great time... Meet some good people... Any way we obviously went to the church to see her in it.

Long story short this was the kind of church we were looking for... The kids WANTED to go and the church is very active in community outreach and volunteering, strong youth group Ave Sunday school...So more doing, a whole lot less banner waiving and judging by the pastor and congregation...

I'm glad we found it. But I understand the sentiment about organized religion.
 
Lol, wut?

Abstinence IS the “best” form of birth control. Name another form that is 100% effective.

There are other forms, some very good ones even. But none are as effective as NOT slidin it in. That’s just the fact, Jack.

Lol, wut?

Castration IS the “best” form of birth control.
Name another form that is 100% effective.

There are other forms, some very good ones even.
But none are as effective as NOT having testicles. That’s just the fact, Jack.


Abstinence only works IF all parties are practicing which doesn’t seem to be the case with all the rapes & sexual assaults present in this world, unfortunately.
 
This topic is near and dear to my heart.

As usual the need to dominate others gets in the way within denominations and churches. However, that negative does not override the command of Christ for us to come together and complete His mission as stated clearly in His words and deeds. In the beginning the Apostles, disciples and supporters were a church. They met, ate, fellowshipped, discussed, planned, funded, healed, assisted, forgave, prayed for, taught, etc. - as well as died defending the faith. We are to do the same and that is harder to accomplish outside of organized churches today. Not impossible, but harder. We have good intentions that tend to fall away as life crowds out our priorities. If you are able to do it outside, such as house churches or small groups, more power to you and God bless your efforts.

We come to church not only to fellowship. That's just a social club of likeminded people. We come to work on helping one another and the non-believing world in The Way. "Religion" gets in the way of all of that. Participating in a Jesus centered organized church, denominational or non, provides the greatest, high point times of our week.

My wife and I were raised SBC. Changed to UMC for decades. As traditional, evangelical believers we left the UMC and went back to the SBC and found a church/group of believers we dearly love. However, we spend a couple of months a year now in another state where we regularly participate in a non-denominational church we also love. If we lived there full time we would join. Both churches go by the Word and have fundamental agreement in their interpretation. You can tell the minute you walk in because the Holy Spirit is active in the hearts of those who attend. Two of the most loving, friendly places of worship with two very distinctive and different styles of worship. In addition to being centered around Christ, teaching and loving on the children/youth/elderly, not caring about your appearance/clothes/financial situation - they both are outreach servants to their communities and the world as He instructed. That's when the rubber meets the road.

May each of you who love the Lord be blessed in whatever you do for his kingdom.
 
Seems like the major factor for people needing organized religion is raising their kids as it gives them a value system and what they see as a good influence. I say if that works for you more power to you I have no kids, have never felt the need to have any since everyone else does. My dogs don't really feel the need to go to church so there is no pull there. My life seems pretty ok to me and I try to live by the Golden rule as much as I can. Bottom line is that everybody finds peace and a reason for being in their own way, don't preach to me and I'll return the favor.
 
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