Weezer
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Thoughts & prayers are better than being ignored, sometimes just knowing anyone cares even if it's not in a tangible way is enough to lift people up.
I don't agree, I think it's worse as it is cheap and cliche.
Can you step back and look at from the perspective of a person of faith? We believe mightily in the power of prayer and the healing that can come from it. You don't care for it, but many do. I would never send platitudes your way because I would not want to insult you. Could you not return the favor and just let others be as well?
I understand the power prayer has for many people. Saying "thoughts and prayers" though is not praying for someone. It's the lowest common denominator you can type out to say "look at me being all sympathetic!" Like someone mentioned earlier, simply saying "I'm praying for you or I will pray for you in your time of loss, etc" means so much more because you actually are saying you are going to do something and you took a little more time to directly address the person suffering. I am not condemning prayer or that people should not lift people up, just don't throw out a tired phrase and think that it feels or seems authentic. Do you understand my point?
Newts point is most people throwing t and ps out are meaningless. As in the person doing the teeing and peeing don’t GAF. Usually just saying it for clout.
I will say that the teenage years for young men (and women) it isn't material they should be consuming for guidance or anything.
But what grown adults do/don't do within their marriage ain't my business.
You are missing the point.Last thing I am saying and about to just ignore a certain poster. I have been thinking and praying about this all day. Just because you do not believe in prayer doesn't make it any less important or effective for others who do. Just believe what you want and let others be. Just shut up sitting on your high horse. @bignewt just shut up about it
One of my very good agnostic friends puts it this way: He appreciates the prayers of religious people. Not for what it means for him, but because he knows what it means for the person giving them.For a religious person, thoughts and prayers can be more powerful than physical or monetary assistance in many cases. For an agnostic person, thoughts and prayers amount to kind words and nothing more. They are nice but do little to help in a situation. It is all about a person's perspective.
One of my very good agnostic friends puts it this way: He appreciates the prayers of religious people. Not for what it means for him, but because he knows what it means for the person giving them.
Like if a toddler gave you their teddy bear when you are hurt. It's not gonna help, but it is the greatest thing the toddler can offer.
When I tell someone I will include them in my prayers, I try to stop and pray for then immediately, because I’m not telling them that to be patted on the back and seen. I genuinely care and want to pray for whatever their situation is. If for some reason I forget, I always try to include in my prayer at some point that day or night for God to help with those I said I would pray for, if I haven’t already prayed specifically for them, because God knows each and every one of them I said I would pray for. Good thoughts though, newt. I think there are those who do it to be seen, but they have to answer to God for that some day...it’s not for me to judge whether they mean it or not.I understand the power prayer has for many people. Saying "thoughts and prayers" though is not praying for someone. It's the lowest common denominator you can type out to say "look at me being all sympathetic!" Like someone mentioned earlier, simply saying "I'm praying for you or I will pray for you in your time of loss, etc" means so much more because you actually are saying you are going to do something and you took a little more time to directly address the person suffering. I am not condemning prayer or that people should not lift people up, just don't throw out a tired phrase and think that it feels or seems authentic. Do you understand my point?
When I tell someone I will include them in my prayers, I try to stop and pray for then immediately, because I’m not telling them that to be patted on the back and seen. I genuinely care and want to pray for whatever their situation is. If for some reason I forget, I always try to include in my prayer at some point that day or night for God to help with those I said I would pray for, if I haven’t already prayed specifically for them, because God knows each and every one of them I said I would pray for. Good thoughts though, newt. I think there are those who do it to be seen, but they have to answer to God for that some day...it’s not for me to judge whether they mean it or not.