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I care about your rights buddy even if I am personally conflicted by it
That's why I didn't quote you directly. To me it's more black and white. I don't think you can take liberties from law abiding people to prevent a potential crime. I think it goes against everything liberty to restrict freedoms of people for the crimes of others. I'm not conflicted at all. I have no desire to partake in cannabis but I will fight for your liberty to do so.
 
That's why I didn't quote you directly. To me it's more black and white. I don't think you can take liberties from law abiding people to prevent a potential crime. I think it goes against everything liberty to restrict freedoms of people for the crimes of others. I'm not conflicted at all. I have no desire to partake in cannabis but I will fight for your liberty to do so.
Cannabis is also completely harmless but I get your drift.
 
Well that’s a whole different situation, but i will day this... i think unwanted children have far less of a chance at a happy and safe life.

Too bad your parents didn’t think of you as an unwanted child.







How did that statement make you feel?







Thing is this. Aborted babies had no choice or chance to decide if they could enjoy their life or not.
 
Cannabis is also completely harmless but I get your drift.
Not really. People risk other's lives all the time driving or operating machinery high. I've had guys working for me where I caught the using fork trucks, lifting heavy stuff overhead around coworkers stoned. Fired them on the spot.
 
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FYI, I am a gun owner with waaaay more guns than the average owner. I was raised within the gun culture and my father showed me how to shoot when I was only 6 with a 22. But I have no problem with background checks, bans on high capacity rounds and things like bump stocks One question I always have is about the phrasing of the 2nd Amendment. Even the current Supreme Court avoids discussing the phrase about "a well-regulated militia . . .". That seems to put a context on the right to bear. You can't ignore it. They put it in there for a purpose.

So what does it mean? You could make an argument that with the advent of the military grade assault rifle that it's even more applicable now, i.e. that ownership of those types of guns can only be within a state-authorized and operating militia such as the National Guard.


But even in the late 1700's there was a technological and qualitative difference between the guns used in a hunting context and those used in military organizations. The military guns were typically heavier, of higher caliber and had bayonet mounts. Was there a purposeful differentiation? For even Constitutional literalist you don't get to ignore that phrase.

You left out "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms," part. The founding fathers weren't referring to a national guard when they wrote a 'well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state'. Everyone of those men were revolutionaries who had recently freed their colonies from a tyrannical government. They did so by the armed people coming together as a militia. And if you read their writings you understand they had a fear of the government they were newly forming, which is why they were so concerned with checks and balances. They fully believed an armed citizenry was necessary to prevent the over-reach of government.
 
Which obviously didn't stop them.
So we've come full circle. More laws restricting rights of law abiding citizens would likely not have prevented either of those. Bad people intent on doing bad things are going to do bad things. Restricting my rights is not going to stop that.

Also, as Crazy pointed out. It could have the opposite effect by stopping law abiding citizens from protecting themselves. More people are saved every year from firearms used for protection than are people killed in Mass shootings.
 
Cannabis is also completely harmless but I get your drift.

It does make you talk goofy though.
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And what's the problem? Turn off fox news for a couple of hours and get out your coloring book.
In spite of your normal elitism presented here, the problem with the evolutionary worldview is that it absolutely cannot stand up. No one, outside of a complete psychopath can live within that worldview. Which is why Dawkins even days he’s anti-Darwinian when it comes to morality.

And the implications of the evolutionary worldview are frightening indeed, not only for the overall meaning of life, but also for those who do in fact hold to them and have the power to carry out those implications.
 
And what's the problem? Turn off fox news for a couple of hours and get out your coloring book.

You seem to be a person who likes to feel he’s educated and enlightened so as to feel superior to others with comments like this. I think it really does more to show you actually are more arrogant and full of ignorant ****.
 
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Too bad your parents didn’t think of you as an unwanted child.







How did that statement make you feel?







Thing is this. Aborted babies had no choice or chance to decide if they could enjoy their life or not.

Idk your background or upbringing but i am from a very low income high crime area so i am very familiar with people who are born that had virtually no choice or chance at a life of enjoyment. I think Society and some people view an unborn child as pure and what they want to imagine them to become. But then when that person is born into a bad situation its more likely they become a sad story or enter into a life of crime or poverty. then some of the same people banging the table for them to be born in the first place are complaining about them Being on government assistance Or the crimes that they will probably one day commit.

There’s also a big difference in people who aren’t ready for a child vs ones who just do not want them.
 
In spite of your normal elitism presented here, the problem with the evolutionary worldview is that it absolutely cannot stand up. No one, outside of a complete psychopath can live within that worldview. Which is why Dawkins even days he’s anti-Darwinian when it comes to morality.

And the implications of the evolutionary worldview are frightening indeed, not only for the overall meaning of life, but also for those who do in fact hold to them and have the power to carry out those implications.

I practice a religion called "Prometheism". Anybody who hasn't seen that movie has no clue how humans were created.
 
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Not really. People risk other's lives all the time driving or operating machinery high. I've had guys working for me where I caught the using fork trucks, lifting heavy stuff overhead around coworkers stoned. Fired them on the spot.
C'mon. Guess you will have to provide stats in people killed in forklift accidents where mj was involved. I'll wait.
 
One of the greatest ironies is that while liberals are almost all evolutionists, their policies are almost uniformly designed to subvert human evolutionary processes. To further that irony, many conservatives are creationists, but their policies would be most Darwinian. Why is that?
 
So we've come full circle. More laws restricting rights of law abiding citizens would likely not have prevented either of those. Bad people intent on doing bad things are going to do bad things. Restricting my rights is not going to stop that.

Also, as Crazy pointed out. It could have the opposite effect by stopping law abiding citizens from protecting themselves. More people are saved every year from firearms used for protection than are people killed in Mass shootings.
As I have stated numerous times, I'm for attacking it with fighting mental issues.
 
In spite of your normal elitism presented here, the problem with the evolutionary worldview is that it absolutely cannot stand up. No one, outside of a complete psychopath can live within that worldview. Which is why Dawkins even days he’s anti-Darwinian when it comes to morality.

And the implications of the evolutionary worldview are frightening indeed, not only for the overall meaning of life, but also for those who do in fact hold to them and have the power to carry out those implications.
Yawn.
 
One of the greatest ironies is that while liberals are almost all evolutionists, their policies are almost uniformly designed to subvert human evolutionary processes. To further that irony, many conservatives are creationists, but their policies would be most Darwinian. Why is that?

Cognitive dissonance.
 
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C'mon. Guess you will have to provide stats in people killed in forklift accidents where mj was involved. I'll wait.
So you think stoned people don't drive? You think they don't operate heavy equipment? What about semi trucks on the road? Sometimes you don't need stats when you apply logic.
 
we're comparing mass deaths? good lord.
I’m sorry that reading comprehension is hard. Hank said that 37,000 deaths from this virus deserves a call for help. I’m merely saying that 620,000 deaths every year deserves a call for help. Why are lives being lost due to this virus more important than lives being lost due to abortion, yet there is no upheaval in this country about the 620,000 babies who are killed every year with NO CHOICE in the matter?! Whether or not people decide to leave their home and possibly expose themselves to this virus is their choice… The babies have no choice. Just trying to find out why lives being lost due to a virus that we are trying to control is more important than lives being lost due to abortion, in which there could be full control preventing that. Plenty of capable parents would love to adopt those precious souls.
 
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