Recruiting Forum Off Topic Thread III

[titansvolsfaninga]

Hmmmm....sounds like you got your way as a child if you threw a tantrum. You may learn the hard way that people don't listen at all when you use violence to make them listen. And the reality is violence is usually met with violence. In the end you may be left with nothing but death and destruction.

It's easy to be unaffected and make things seem so simplistic. I intend to fully exercise my 2A rights. America was built on death and destruction.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

They are going to start a real race war, and thousands will die if somebody doesn't stop this insanity.

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

@titansvolsfaninga - You consider this acceptable behavior?

The loss of life is a tragic result of war.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

The loss of life is a tragic result of war.

Then you consider yourself at war with me?

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

Then you consider yourself at war with me?

I don't consider myself at war with you. The best way to end racism, is for everyone that has privilege, is to use their privilege to expose those that are racist. Silence is complicity. Just imagine if white cops exposed the racist cops. What if white people confronted racist all the times. We expect people to turn in criminals all the time, which is the right thing to do. If I see a crime, I call the police. Racism is a disease that has festered in America far too long.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I don't consider myself at war with you. The best way to end racism, is for everyone that has privilege, is to use their privilege to expose those that are racist. Silence is complicity. Just imagine if white cops exposed the racist cops. What if white people confronted racist all the times. We expect people to turn in criminals all the time, which is the right thing to do. If I see a crime, I call the police. Racism is a disease that has festered in America far too long.

Dude I hate racism..but I am white..all the animalistic violence you are advocating doing is just going to make me have to see every black person as a potential life threatening enemy...which I do not want to do. I don't want you to walk down my street in fear, but I don't want to walk down yours in fear either.

How do you not understand that is what is going to come from this?

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Every single white person I know was horrified by the killing of George Floyd..because he was a human being who had done nothing to deserve death..

I am equally if not more horrified by the brutal killing of that shop owner who was only protecting..courageously I might add..what was his. He had done nothing to be arrested for..he was just trying to protect his livlihood..

All involved..the policeman that killed George Floyd, and the mob that killed that poor man are rabid animals that should be put down.

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

@titansvolsfaninga - You consider this acceptable behavior?

After researching the video, the shop owner stabbed a kid on the skateboard that was on the sidewalk. Soni say that was street justice being served. He was not randomly singled out.

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

Dude I hate racism..but I am white..all the animalistic violence you are advocating doing is just going to make me have to see every black person as a potential life threatening enemy...which I do not want to do. I don't want you to walk down my street in fear, but I don't want to walk down yours in fear either.

How do you not understand that is what is going to come from this?

How do you think black people view silent white people when racism is being openly espoused right in front of them? Is the silence a form of approval? How do you think black people feel when there are known racist people on the police force. What you are advocating is for the oppressed people to be docile. You want black people to not act like "animals" so that you feel comfortable. Did you think people that were beating and lynching peaceful protesters in the 60s were acting like animals. The description of animalistic is an interesting choice of words.

 

[Orangeburst]

How do you think black people view silent white people when racism is being openly espoused right in front of them? Is the silence a form of approval? How do you think black people feel when there are known racist people on the police force. What you are advocating is for the oppressed people to be docile. You want black people to not act like "animals" so that you feel comfortable. Did you think people that were beating and lynching peaceful protesters in the 60s were acting like animals. The description of animalistic is an interesting choice of words.

These kids as you say are adult aged and carrying skateboards to smash windows, so don't twist it.

 

[peaygolf]

I don't consider myself at war with you. The best way to end racism, is for everyone that has privilege, is to use their privilege to expose those that are racist. Silence is complicity. Just imagine if white cops exposed the racist cops. What if white people confronted racist all the times. We expect people to turn in criminals all the time, which is the right thing to do. If I see a crime, I call the police. Racism is a disease that has festered in America far too long.

Absolutely. I'm white, and I'm smart enough not to pretend to know, or understand, what it is like to be a minority or what exactly needs to be done.

The only opinion I have is this..................To fully rid ourselves as a country of racism, the only thing that will work is time.
Forcing those who think different, to act a certain way, is guaranteed to have have the opposite effect. In the south, we are 1 generation removed from "whites only" signs everywhere and only 3-4 generations from slavery. My kids are less biased than I was at their age, I'm less biased than my parents were, and certainly less than my grandparents and great-grand parents. Each generation is becoming less biased. I can only hope and pray that the trend continues, until it is eradicated. With that being said.........we all know that racism will never be eliminated. As long as some people look, act, vote, walk, talk, and live differently, there will be bias. That is unfortunate. Time takes Time. JMO ( I really don't like what is going on in this country and don't like discussing it, but I wish it would stop.)

 

[WBO]

Some thoughts I have since we are treading into an area (racism) fraught with dangers from the words we use:

If you have to say you're not a racist before you write or say something, you probably are.

To deny white privilege exists is to be detached from reality.

You need to try to understand the context and effect of your words in the listener's mind, not yours. It's not the listener's fault if his life experiences give different meanings to words than what you intended. It is your responsibility as the speaker who is trying to communicate to understand the effect on the listener.

When you use terms like "animals" and "thugs" those are code words now. You may argue you didn't mean them that way but they are. It's like when you say a black person should be hung for something. Whites were never lynched in the South for something as innocuous as looking the wrong way at a white woman and lynching was used as tool of oppression of the black southern population since the rise of the KKK. So anytime you use that in a discussion involving a black person you are using a code word to the black listener.

Take a minute to think about what your words may mean to other people before you say them.

Oh, and if you say it's not your responsibility to do that when dealing with racial issues, you're a racist.

 

[Crazy Ivan]

Some thoughts I have since we are treading into an area (racism) fraught with dangers from the words we use:

If you have to say you're not a racist before you write or say something, you probably are.

To deny white privilege exists is to be detached from reality.

You need to try to understand the context and effect of your words in the listener's mind, not yours. It's not the listener's fault if his life experiences give different meanings to words than what you intended. It is your responsibility as the speaker who is trying to communicate to understand the effect on the listener.

When you use terms like "animals" and "thugs" those are code words now. You may argue you didn't mean them that way but they are. It's like when you say a black person should be hung for something. Whites were never lynched in the South for something as innocuous as looking the wrong way at a white woman and lynching was used as tool of oppression of the black southern population since the rise of the KKK. So anytime you use that in a discussion involving a black person you are using a code word to the black listener.

Take a minute to think about what your words may mean to other people before you say them.

Oh, and if you say it's not your responsibility to do that when dealing with racial issues, you're a racist.

So then I guess Obama is also an overt racist since he called Baltimore looters and rioters 'thugs'.

Obama called rioters 'thugs'

And when questioned about using the words he reaffirmed that was exactly what he meant.

 

[Crazy Ivan]

And sadly it seems UT fans are stuck with Jesse Simonton.

 

[SSVol]

So I assume that black on black violence is no longer a problem? And black on white violence? Cause apparently white on black is the only thing happening.

 

[JacketVol]

I'm more Malcolm than Martin. Violence works. Looting and rioting created this country, yes? When we speak, no one listens. The response is that we are complaining. When we marched we were dismissed as agitators. When we wrote letters, those letters were unread. The next logical step is violence. Sometimes people don't listen until you force them to listen.

After I saw the protesters almost and may have kill a white store owner protecting his store, you made me just as angry as I was watching what happened to Mr. Floyd. It didn’t help your cause Malcom. I stopped listening as it made me realize there is garbage on both sides. Good on both sides but in general, humans suck.

 

[engineerVOL]

I'm more Malcolm than Martin. Violence works. Looting and rioting created this country, yes? When we speak, no one listens. The response is that we are complaining. When we marched we were dismissed as agitators. When we wrote letters, those letters were unread. The next logical step is violence. Sometimes people don't listen until you force them to listen.

I hope you’re happy. The anarachists who hate our country really galvanized the country today.

 

[Orangeburst]

I hope you’re happy. The anarachists who hate our country really galvanized the country today.

Using violence to address grievances would leave us with perpetual violence.

 

[peaygolf]

I'm more Malcolm than Martin. Violence works. Looting and rioting created this country, yes? When we speak, no one listens. The response is that we are complaining. When we marched we were dismissed as agitators. When we wrote letters, those letters were unread. The next logical step is violence. Sometimes people don't listen until you force them to listen.

THAT does not work. I'm sorry, but that will divide this country so much more.

 

[engineerVOL]

THAT does not work. I'm sorry, but that will divide this country so much more.

SaS is right. I liken this to a temper tantrum. Absolute buffoonery.

 

[JacketVol]

How do you think black people view silent white people when racism is being openly espoused right in front of them? Is the silence a form of approval? How do you think black people feel when there are known racist people on the police force. What you are advocating is for the oppressed people to be docile. You want black people to not act like "animals" so that you feel comfortable. Did you think people that were beating and lynching peaceful protesters in the 60s were acting like animals. The description of animalistic is an interesting choice of words.

Their were white people acting like animals inn the 60’s and still today. Violence begets violence and progress goes backwards as hate fills hearts. Progress happened in 60’s especially as we saw the violence whites did to blacks and things changed. Now, violence on violence has created a wider divide. I don’t see non racist whites silent on Floyd but no one gets freedom to commit crimes regardless of what has made them angry regardless of the color of their skin. Advocating violence instead of punishing criminals which can include police officers makes you part of the problem.

 

[Weezer]

Has nothing to.do.with donald. Has a lot to do with the racism.in America. But you wouldn't understand. To you, it's simple because it does not affect you.

Laughable comment. Racism affects everyone. Hate is not singular to white people.

 

[Weezer]

The loss of life is a tragic result of war.

This isn't war. This is a mob lashing out at someone who has nothing to do with what they claim to be outraged about. The fact you try to justify it speaks to your character.

 

[Weezer]

After researching the video, the shop owner stabbed a kid on the skateboard that was on the sidewalk. Soni say that was street justice being served. He was not randomly singled out.

Were they trying to destroy his business? Were they threatening the livelihood of his family? If not for the needless rioting and looting, NO ONE would have been hurt. If people would have kept their protests peaceful, everyone could have gone home alive at the end of the day. There is no justification for this behavior, so stop trying to justify it.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Were they trying to destroy his business? Were they threatening the livelihood of his family? If not for the needless rioting and looting, NO ONE would have been hurt. If people would have kept their protests peaceful, everyone could have gone home alive at the end of the day. There is no justification for this behavior, so stop trying to justify it.

none.