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I thought he did a good job of breaking it down.....Both cases of Self inflicted wounds.
We have the same situation potentially with EVANS and nobody sees it.
Could be setting ourselves up for disaster
Again, sounds like a Kiffin Setup and drama. Adoree' Jackson....
Maybe Evans will use this visit to put us in a NIL bidding war for his services.
We will know soon enough....
 
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How did she get to that point? Whose responsibility was it to consider the consequences of her actions and choices?

The thing about subsidizing bad decisions, ethics, morals, etc... is that you guarantee that you get more of them.

Her husband could’ve died or just up and left, if we are doing hypotheticals. Morals and ethics are great when you are born into a good situation or are one of the lucky ones who break out of the situation they were born into, but to act like everyone is brought up in a stable environment or are taught right from wrong is laughably naive.
 
Her husband could’ve died or just up and left, if we are doing hypotheticals. Morals and ethics are great when you are born into a good situation or are one of the lucky ones who break out of the situation they were born into, but to act like everyone is brought up in a stable environment or are taught right from wrong is laughably naive.
Never said any of that. And no, far from naive. And MOST bad situations are a product of personal decisions.

And no, morals and ethics are great ESPECIALLY when you are NOT born into a good situation. It is almost always requisite to "breaking out of the situation".
 
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Plus they live off the backs of underpaid employees.

The idea that anyone is ever underpaid is always hilarious to me. When you make that claim what you’re saying is:

“The problem here is with the company offering them the best opportunity” because presumably all people take the job they see to be in their best interest.

So if no one is offering them anything better (especially in today’s job market) then perhaps the issue is with the employee?
 
The idea that anyone is ever underpaid is always hilarious to me. When you make that claim what you’re saying is:

“The problem here is with the company offering them the best opportunity” because presumably all people take the job they see to be in their best interest.

So if no one is offering them anything better (especially in today’s job market) then perhaps the issue is with the employee?
You’ve never read a Dickens novel or worked in food-service/retail have you?
 
You’ve never read a Dickens novel or worked in food-service/retail have you?

I worked at kfc as a teen and was probably overpaid.

No one is underpaid. You voluntarily accept a position. You accept it because it’s the best opportunity you have. If you were underpaid, you wouldn’t expect because someone would be offering you better.

It’s an absurd and elitist view to ever claim anyone is underpaid. What you’re saying is the job they have isn’t good enough for your own standard. If that’s the case you’re always welcome to hire them and pay them more (the fact that noone is doing that implies they are not overpaid). Or if you’re the individual making the crappy pay you have to evaluate why noone is willing to pay you a dollar more. If you do that honestly, you’ll find you’re the problem
 
I worked at kfc as a teen and was probably overpaid.

No one is underpaid. You voluntarily accept a position. You accept it because it’s the best opportunity you have. If you were underpaid, you wouldn’t expect because someone would be offering you better.

It’s an absurd and elitist view to ever claim anyone is underpaid. What you’re saying is the job they have isn’t good enough for your own standard. If that’s the case you’re always welcome to hire them and pay them more (the fact that noone is doing that implies they are not overpaid). Or if you’re the individual making the crappy pay you have to evaluate why noone is willing to pay you a dollar more. If you do that honestly, you’ll find you’re the problem
You have to pay rent out of that KFC salary as a teen?

Go read about the coal miners who took up arms and faced death or prison at Blair Mountain in 1921, or the 80-hour work weeks and child labor of the textile industry in the 19th and early 20th century before the labor movement, or the truckers who get bills for the truck instead of paychecks even though they drive 60+ hours a week, or the fact that minimum wage in the fifties could support a middle-class lifestyle for a family of 5 and now barely gets you to the threshold of poverty in some states.

“No one is underpaid” is the absolute most obtuse, backward, willfully ignorant bs I’ve ever read on here. Tell that to my mother, who got her pension screwed away by c-level executives who walked away with millions after the company went bankrupt.
 
You have to pay rent out of that KFC salary as a teen?

Go read about the coal miners who took up arms and faced death or prison at Blair Mountain in 1921, or the 80-hour work weeks and child labor of the textile industry in the 19th and early 20th century before the labor movement, or the truckers who get bills for the truck instead of paychecks even though they drive 60+ hours a week, or the fact that minimum wage in the fifties could support a middle-class lifestyle for a family of 5 and now barely gets you to the threshold of poverty in some states.

“No one is underpaid” is the absolute most obtuse, backward, willfully ignorant bs I’ve ever read on here. Tell that to my mother, who got her pension screwed away by c-level executives who walked away with millions after the company went bankrupt.

Is this 1921, or do you have a lot of options where you can work? You live in a world of cars and great roads. Driving up to an hour a day isn’t difficult and if you can’t find anyone willing to pay you more than you make within an hour radius, the company isn’t the problem. You are.

The minimum wage in 1950 adjusted for inflation today would be $8.28 an hour, so idk where you got the idea that people were better off then. This is the wealthiest time in world history, our poor live better than the wealthy did a century ago. Every truck driver I know does very well, some making over 100k.

Your mother willfully accepted a job with a pension knowing what would occur if the pension went under. No one prevented her from working elsewhere or saving for her own retirement.

Yes, no one is underpaid. If you truly believe there are so many underpaid people, change it. What prevents you from starting a business and hiring all these wonderful people for more than they currently make?

Once again, the fact that no one is doing so (especially during a mass labor shortage), implies they are not underpaid.
 
I worked at kfc as a teen and was probably overpaid.

No one is underpaid. You voluntarily accept a position. You accept it because it’s the best opportunity you have. If you were underpaid, you wouldn’t expect because someone would be offering you better.

It’s an absurd and elitist view to ever claim anyone is underpaid. What you’re saying is the job they have isn’t good enough for your own standard. If that’s the case you’re always welcome to hire them and pay them more (the fact that noone is doing that implies they are not overpaid). Or if you’re the individual making the crappy pay you have to evaluate why noone is willing to pay you a dollar more. If you do that honestly, you’ll find you’re the problem

Ok, I am going to bite on this one. Please explain how claiming somebody is underpaid absurd and elitist. And I don't mean to just repeat the phrase over in different ways, I mean really explain what you mean when you say that. Especially the elitist part. I am very keen to learn more about that.

But until then, your argument seems to be that anybody that feels underpaid can just quit their jobs and go find the same job somewhere else that will pay them commensurate with their contribution? Brilliant! We should let them know immediately. They will be so relieved to hear that.

I'll let all the teachers, police officers, and firefighters who are clearly underpaid know. And on that note, do you think those are the best opportunities that those people have? Likely not, but they do it anyways. Why do you think that is? And if they did all decide to go look for better paying jobs, what then? So we have less experienced, less qualified people in those jobs? So instead of being elitist and arguing for increased wages, we should instead give those menial tasks to people who value their time much less than all the teachers and cops that currently keep us safe and educate our children.

Finally, by definition, almost all women are underpaid. There is no profession where a woman, on average, does not make less than a man with equal credentials. Literally, they are getting paid less than somebody else in the same area doing the same job. Any idea why they don't leave for better paying jobs?

There are many reasons why somebody might not leave a job that is underpaying them. That does not mean they are not underpaid.
 
Ok, I am going to bite on this one. Please explain how claiming somebody is underpaid absurd and elitist. And I don't mean to just repeat the phrase over in different ways, I mean really explain what you mean when you say that. Especially the elitist part. I am very keen to learn more about that.

But until then, your argument seems to be that anybody that feels underpaid can just quit their jobs and go find the same job somewhere else that will pay them commensurate with their contribution? Brilliant! We should let them know immediately. They will be so relieved to hear that.

I'll let all the teachers, police officers, and firefighters who are clearly underpaid know. And on that note, do you think those are the best opportunities that those people have? Likely not, but they do it anyways. Why do you think that is? And if they did all decide to go look for better paying jobs, what then? So we have less experienced, less qualified people in those jobs? So instead of being elitist and arguing for increased wages, we should instead give those menial tasks to people who value their time much less than all the teachers and cops that currently keep us safe and educate our children.

Finally, by definition, almost all women are underpaid. There is no profession where a woman, on average, does not make less than a man with equal credentials. Literally, they are getting paid less than somebody else in the same area doing the same job. Any idea why they don't leave for better paying jobs?

There are many reasons why somebody might not leave a job that is underpaying them. That does not mean they are not underpaid.

No reason to keep blowing this thread up. I’ll copy your message and create a new thread in the politics forum called “No one is Under Paid”. I’ll respond there.
 
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@Ulysees E. McGill @UTSuave’

I figured this be better for Off topic with everything going on. You guys seem to appreciate nature’s beauty, check this **** out from a 3 day hike I did after Thanksgiving at Savage Gulf here in Middle TN

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I post them in the main thread because so many people asked me to, and the only time people look in here is when something we are talking about gets moved here.

I usually post them late at night or early in the AM before everybody gets on.

If you have some good ones I think people really enjoy beauty and don't mind it as long as it doesn't get out of hand.
 
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I post them in the main thread because so many people asked me to, and the only time people look in here is when something we are talking about gets moved here.

I usually post them late at night or early in the AM before everybody gets on.

If you have some good ones I think people really enjoy beauty and don't mind it as long as it doesn't get out of hand.
Ahhh, good point, just didn't want to clutter up any nuggs that may drop LOL!

What stinks too is that I tried to load that pic in panoramic but it said it was too large. The view is more stunning from that perspective IMO.
 
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Man, I didn’t care anymore but now I do. I hope this miracle NIL works out and we steal him back from Satan

There is no miracle NIL lmao. This Sphyre company is a damn joke. They tried to sell it on that podcast with VQ but naw player they're still light years away from the rest of the world. It was embarrassing what they came talking about to Zach and other recruits.
 
Sorry but we've listened and the kid was highy disappointed. TCU smoked Sphyre crumb ass offer. It was an utter joke. NIL is killing UT in a very LARGE way.
Sure.
I don’t post here much, but I do read along, and I’ve come to the conclusion that you’re full of ****. You do have a lot of people fooled though.
Have a blessed day
 
Sorry but we've listened and the kid was highy disappointed. TCU smoked Sphyre crumb ass offer. It was an utter joke. NIL is killing UT in a very LARGE way.
I think it's understandable for UT to not be aggressive about NIL until the NCAA stuff is completely behind them. They'll lose some good players in the short term, but I don't doubt that they'll get on equal footing to other programs at some point.
 

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