Recruiting forum off topic thread (no politics, covid, or hot button issues)

[Mccage]

The intended purpose for NIL was to allow student athletes to earn some income, instead of the schools or other entities profiting alone from amateur athletes. It was never intended to allow kids fresh out of high school to earn 6-7 figures a year. Bryce Young will be the exception, not the rule. Giving these kids ridiculous amounts of money, without earning it, will remove the student part of student- athlete. I used Bryce Young as an example, because very few will be handed a million dollars at 18, and continue to work their a$$ off. A large percentage won't make it to the NFL, and the merit of getting a degree will have been devalued.

College football as we've known it is a thing of the past.Think what you may but the NIL is a recruiting tool only. There is so many loop holes that even Pruitt wouldn't get caught.

 

[Vols1117]

College football as we've known it is a thing of the past.Think what you may but the NIL is a recruiting tool only. There is so many loop holes that even Pruitt wouldn't get caught.

Hearing NCAA investigation on some already

 

[Stark_Vol]

Hearing NCAA investigation on some already

It'll be interesting to see what happens with them. If the NCAA can't control it, things could get really spicy

 

[Vols1117]

It'll be interesting to see what happens with them. If the NCAA can't control it, things could get really spicy

NCAA just wants their cut of the money.

 

[T2P_Priceless]

Sorry but we've listened and the kid was highy disappointed. TCU smoked Sphyre crumb ass offer. It was an utter joke. NIL is killing UT in a very LARGE way.

We seem to be doing just fine

 

[TheMookieMonster]

I mean at least the good news is we can have all this dumb conspiracy crap behind us next week and move on.

Lol who am I kidding Vol Nation doesn’t move on.

 

[DaddyChad]

Sure.
I don’t post here much, but I do read along, and I’ve come to the conclusion that you’re full of ****. You do have a lot of people fooled though.
Have a blessed day

DE1 be cutting fades and throwing shade UT’s way.

 

[Rishvol]

What's the point of the flame of tar valon and the dragon fang if they got rid of saidin and saidar?

 

[Sudden Impact]

DE1 be cutting fades and throwing shade UT’s way.

What is his (DE1)role in all this?
Does he have experience?
Does he get a cut?
I guess, I am wondering why he is posting on this board if he represents Evans.
He seems to be the Public Information Dept, the agent, the handler and the Evans CEO of Football operations.
Confused. Why if in the hades if you did any of these jobs would you post on an open forum.
Is he on TCU or Ole Miss Forums doing the same information dump....sounds like a rookie...

 

[Rishvol]

It's gonna be a struggle to get through these last two episodes

 

[Buzzbait]

the end part is hee-larry-us

Thanks; I thought it was spelled hill-air-e-us

 

[bpalmer28]

What is his (DE1)role in all this?
Does he have experience?
Does he get a cut?
I guess, I am wondering why he is posting on this board if he represents Evans.
He seems to be the Public Information Dept, the agent, the handler and the Evans CEO of Football operations.
Confused. Why if in the hades if you did any of these jobs would you post on an open forum.
Is he on TCU or Ole Miss Forums doing the same information dump....sounds like a rookie...

He’s been around a long time. Buds with Buck Fitz at NPA.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Praying for those families affected by Tornado. Be safe folks

 

[goooooovols]

Sorry but we've listened and the kid was highy disappointed. TCU smoked Sphyre crumb ass offer. It was an utter joke. NIL is killing UT in a very LARGE way.

Can you be more specific as to how you feel the NIL opportunities, or lack there of are hurting Tennessee? Like dollars, cents…

Not trying to be a smart ass but there always seem to be an array of posters who claim to be close to situations but never offer real information outside of “it’s hurtin em”

 

[SouthKnoxVOL]

Sorry but we've listened and the kid was highy disappointed. TCU smoked Sphyre crumb ass offer. It was an utter joke. NIL is killing UT in a very LARGE way.

You're such a damn con man....it's pathetic.

 

[pierce60]

Translation: Spyre’s offer to HIM was crumbs because they didn’t want to finance his beauty salon, but TCU was fine doing that.

 

[Orangeslice13]

You're such a damn con man....it's pathetic.

Not sure why anyone takes him seriously.

 

[SouthKnoxVOL]

Not sure why anyone takes him seriously.

In that post he put "we've" listened. It ain't his decision...nor his life....but that's how you know he is looking for handouts also.

 

[GVol1966]

In that post he put "we've" listened. It ain't his decision...nor his life....but that's how you know he is looking for handouts also.

Kids like Evans lack a Father/Mother/Coach positive influence to help guide them in making the best choice for themselves,
So “handlers “ convince them they are doing that, while really chasing the money they can put in their own pockets

 

[Mccage]

Can you be more specific as to how you feel the NIL opportunities, or lack there of are hurting Tennessee? Like dollars, cents…

Not trying to be a smart ass but there always seem to be an array of posters who claim to be close to situations but never offer real information outside of “it’s hurtin em”

You will have to wait until he quits standing in front of the mirror to get a reply!

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

I would say there's a strong chance LWS knows morw than he lets on

You mean the guy who admitted to not having as many connections and keeps calling for four win seasons? Call me skeptical. Let’s check back on transfers and commits in 2022.

 

[Jackcrevol]

You mean the guy who admitted to not having as many connections and keeps calling for four win seasons? Call me skeptical. Let’s check back on transfers and commits in 2022.

Has consistently underplayed everything since back in early 2000's? Yes. He may have taken a step back, but, knew people back in the day. Anyway, I'll let him speak for himself, he posts on here from time to time.

 

[Fullfillmer]

There is no miracle NIL lmao. This Sphyre company is a damn joke. They tried to sell it on that podcast with VQ but naw player they're still light years away from the rest of the world. It was embarrassing what they came talking about to Zach and other recruits.

Don't entirely disagree - but there was a state law prohibiting it previously and they are probably just getting set up and established. One of the two groups did look like MEH .... the other looked legitimate. I think it's a starting point.

Since the school is supposed to have zero involvement - and in the case of Tennessee that holds true with this AD and coach - there are going to be some stops and starts, some learning curves, etc. There is a balance - some will offer way too much, and get zero return on their investment. My NIL would not be worth much, neither would yours. What commercial value does Zach see himself adding either to this community or to a specific business in this or other communities? Is he going to be here for more than a year, or a year or two. Are you acting as an agent for him or others?

There are so few kids who's NIL actually have much value. Peyton - the QB at LSU when they won the national championship. The current qb at Alabama.
The rest ..... not really that much value. Do the offensive linemen at Texas have great NIL value ? No, not really.

Maybe all your efforts are noble, I don't know you. I just know there are a lot of people that are not looking out for the student athletes, but rather for themselves and either their egos or their pocketbook.
I played collegiate athletics and I think other than a tiny handful of Peytons - the rest of the NIL should be capped. Probably it all should be capped. Once players are receiving values greater than their true NIL value - it's really slippery.

I haven't met a college lineman ever, that I would say his name and likeness are worth probably more than $5000 to $10,000 a year at the most. And someone would have to use him - at a car lot selling cars or selling burgers or something. Same holds true of say Lady Vol soccer or softball players. I know you are not tasked with fixing the system but be aware that it's a completely new and very flawed.

Historically there have been a lot of bad actors in the murky underbelly of quasi advisors/agents out there - I hope you are not one of them or that you do not aspire to be.
Give kids great haircuts, advise them to stay in school, get a good degree, go to the college of their choice and hopefully come back and be a role model for the neighborhood and the community.

Sorry to ramble on - it's a rainy Saturday.

 

[Fullfillmer]

Personally, I'm happy that we're not paying."mercenaries". These coaches have worked hard to build a particular culture. I feel that if you do things the right way, we will still find success and maintain it. I would happily keep the vultures away from the program. That's just my opinion though. At the end of the day, it's about what kind of person you are. I would rather help build young men of integrity

This all day - otherwise you end up with a bunch of people looking out for only themselves. I would prefer low 4 star high 3 star all day if the 5 stars have entitlement issues and think their NIL's are worth millions.

 

[Fullfillmer]

This is no surprise. If anyone did a little research on them and the two guys running it then they would realize they are just trying to get in on the NIL while it's still fresh and have some initial backing from former alumni. Everything with the VQ podcast was purely PR.

I'd enjoy more insight on what UT is trying to do and if we are even pushing for the real players to make some sizable NIL deals.

UT can't do anything. NIL is outside of the university and the University System. It has to be independent and apart.