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To each their own. That's the point you failed to grasp.
You missed the hypocrisy? You called it fallacy and (false) hubris for one "mortal person" to correct another person with their own perceived truth. That means that you are failing your own fallacy and exhibiting the same hubris by doing so.

That is, unless you aren't mortal? Or you don't believe your point to be true?

The fallacy if religion lies in those words. Tell your neighbor of the truth YOU see, while being nothing more than equal, mortal men. The only reason many on here speak of Christianity is because they were born in the Bible belt and not Afghanistan. Let everyone seek for themselves. Anything else is false hubris.
 
You missed the hypocrisy? You called it fallacy and (false) hubris for one "mortal person" to correct another person with their own perceived truth. That means that you are failing your own fallacy and exhibiting the same hubris by doing so.

That is, unless you aren't mortal? Or you don't believe your point to be true?
The difference is simple. I'm not telling you are wrong for believing in your God. When you press that belief on others, that's the problem.
 
The difference is simple. I'm not telling you are wrong for believing in your God. When you press that belief on others, that's the problem.

Ouch. There it is again.

The fallacy if religion lies in those words. Tell your neighbor of the truth YOU see, while being nothing more than equal, mortal men. The only reason many on here speak of Christianity is because they were born in the Bible belt and not Afghanistan. Let everyone seek for themselves. Anything else is false hubris.

What's my problem? That, as a mere mortal human, you're correcting our truth with your truth? That you're pressing your belief on the subject onto Christians?

Again, it's a pretty striking hypocrisy that you seem intent on missing.

So, trust me. It's not my problem. It appears to be yours.
 
The difference is simple. I'm not telling you are wrong for believing in your God. When you press that belief on others, that's the problem.
Why is it a problem? We are called to share our faith with others. If you choose not to accept it, that's your right. I'm not "forcing" my belief on anyone.
 
Ouch. There it is again.



What's my problem? That, as a mere mortal human, you're correcting our truth with your truth? That you're pressing your belief on the subject onto Christians?

Again, it's a pretty striking hypocrisy that you seem intent on missing.

So, trust me. It's not my problem. It appears to be yours.
I'm good. Just like to yell into the echo chamber every once in a while.
 
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Why is it a problem? We are called to share our faith with others. If you choose not to accept it, that's your right. I'm not "forcing" my belief on anyone.

I get it. Been to church plenty. I understand what your faith asks to do. I just see the conflict it has and does cause. It's a big world, lots of beliefs. Be nice if humans could accept that.
 
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I get it. Been to church plenty. I understand what your faith asks to do. I just see the conflict it has and does cause. It's a big world, lots of beliefs. Be nice if humans could accept that.
No doubt there are a lot of beliefs. But if you "believe" what you say you believe there can only be one truth. I choose to put my faith and hope in Jesus. I fully respect your right to choose to follow or not follow any form of religion. The one thing you CANNOT do is choose to be a Georgia fan.
 
No doubt there are a lot of beliefs. But if you "believe" what you say you believe there can only be one truth. I choose to put my faith and hope in Jesus. I fully respect your right to choose to follow or not follow any form of religion. The one thing you CANNOT do is choose to be a Georgia fan.
Agreed.
 
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I get it. Been to church plenty. I understand what your faith asks to do. I just see the conflict it has and does cause. It's a big world, lots of beliefs. Be nice if humans could accept that.

Christians know and accept that there are lots of beliefs. You act as if Jesus was sending out a bunch of Daleks in Matthew 7, to exterminate anyone who is different. You also act as though Christians shouldn't have a table in the belief marketplace that you're such a fan of.

You may want to ask yourself what makes you so afraid of those moral opinions.
 
I get it. Been to church plenty. I understand what your faith asks to do. I just see the conflict it has and does cause. It's a big world, lots of beliefs. Be nice if humans could accept that.
Religion is often an excuse for conflict, but conflict is built into who we are. We’re animals. Only through great effort can we overcome our cruel nature. Religion, of course, obviously hasn’t solved this in totality. Whether it’s made it worse…certainly great evil has been done in God’s name, but I’m not sure that evil would have been measurably less under a totally non-theistic belief system. We simply would’ve come up with different reasons to kill and oppress each other.
 
Religion is often an excuse for conflict, but conflict is built into who we are. We’re animals. Only through great effort can we overcome our cruel nature. Religion, of course, obviously hasn’t solved this in totality. Whether it’s made it worse…certainly great evil has been done in God’s name, but I’m not sure that evil would have been measurably less under a totally non-theistic belief system. We simply would’ve come up with different reasons to kill and oppress each other.
I can agree with that.
 
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I get it. Been to church plenty. I understand what your faith asks to do. I just see the conflict it has and does cause. It's a big world, lots of beliefs. Be nice if humans could accept that.

What does the Christian faith ask its followers to do? If your response is based on works or following rules, your understanding is wrong. Unlike practically every other practiced faith, Christianity emphasizes salvation through grace, not how good you are.

The closer you grow in communion with God through Jesus Christ, the more obedient and subservient you become. Not because you feel compelled to work, the work’s been done, but so you bring Him glorification.
 
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Christians know and accept that there are lots of beliefs. You act as if Jesus was sending out a bunch of Daleks in Matthew 7, to exterminate anyone who is different. You also act as though Christians shouldn't have a table in the belief marketplace that you're such a fan of.

You may want to ask yourself what makes you so afraid of those moral opinions.
Never said that, all beliefs should have a seat at the table, as long as they know what's all at the table is equal
 
What does the Christian faith ask its followers to do? If your response is based on works or following rules, your understanding is wrong. Unlike practically every other practiced faith, Christianity emphasizes salvation through grace, not how good you are.

The closer you grow in communion with God through Jesus Christ, the more obedient and subservient you become. Not because you feel compelled to work, the work’s been done, but so you bring Him glorification.

Glad for you although grace is found in many other ways, depends on the faith. Who is to say which is right or wrong?
 
Religion is often an excuse for conflict, but conflict is built into who we are. We’re animals. Only through great effort can we overcome our cruel nature. Religion, of course, obviously hasn’t solved this in totality. Whether it’s made it worse…certainly great evil has been done in God’s name, but I’m not sure that evil would have been measurably less under a totally non-theistic belief system. We simply would’ve come up with different reasons to kill and oppress each other.
See Soviet Russia, China, etc...
 
Glad for you although grace is found in many other ways, depends on the faith. Who is to say which is right or wrong?

Apparently you are, since you called Christianity an arrogant fallacy.

The fallacy if religion lies in those words. Tell your neighbor of the truth YOU see, while being nothing more than equal, mortal men. The only reason many on here speak of Christianity is because they were born in the Bible belt and not Afghanistan. Let everyone seek for themselves. Anything else is false hubris.

That is as equally valid as any and every other belief in the running...

Never said that, all beliefs should have a seat at the table, as long as they know what's all at the table is equal
 
Apparently you are, since you called Christianity an arrogant fallacy.



That is as equally valid as any and every other belief in the running...

I did not call Christianity an arrogant fallacy. Believing everyone who doesn't agree with you is going to burn in hell...is. can you not have one without the other?
 
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