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SSVol said:
In the short term, sure. In the long term, I disagree. You get more of what you subsidize and less of what you tax. Since governments control subsidies and taxation, they set the long term growth rate. Gas could easily be $1 if that were the government emphasis.

I am absolutely of the belief that we need to be moving toward less use of fossil fuels, and there is a reasonable argument that higher fuel prices make it financially expedient to do so, but too much too fast is destructive to the people least capable of adapting.
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The bottom line is that global markets set the price. Yes our governments (feds, state, local) all tax gas and that plays into it but the price is set by global supply and demand. Now domestically we could be producing more but due to the pandemic and drop in demand, those private companies did not invest in drilling they invested in things that kept their investors happy. Now its near impossible to get the equipment and people to up drilling. Also our refineries are not what they once were and are either damaged from hurricanes, out of date or have converted to ethanol. That all plays into the lack of supply right now.
 
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bignewt said:
The bottom line is that global markets set the price. Yes our governments (feds, state, local) all tax gas and that plays into it but the price is set by global supply and demand. Now domestically we could be producing more but due to the pandemic and drop in demand, those private companies did not invest in drilling they invested in things that kept their investors happy. Now its near impossible to get the equipment and people to up drilling. Also our refineries are not what they once were and are either damaged from hurricanes, out of date or have converted to ethanol. That all plays into the lack of supply right now.
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I'm not talking about taxing gas at the consumer level. I'm talking about regulatory climates and tax incentive vs penalties. The current EV market is substantially driven by subsidy and a friendly regulatory environment. That absolutely has a long term effect on the price of and viability of that market. If the government decided one day that gas was good, and incentivized production while reducing regulatory burden, there is zero doubt that the price of gas drops over the long term.

You're about to see the effect of that type of government pivot with regard to semiconductor manufacturing. We've been giving away foundry capacity for many years, and that has led to foreign dependence and vulnerability that is killing us now. Intel, TI and others are now being driven by government to repatriate foundry capacity (Intel CEO described it as "government is now a wind at our backs"), which in a few years will translate into adequate supply at reasonable prices, domestically sourced and secure from foreign meddling. There is zero reason they can't do the same thing with fuel, if they wanted to. Ditto for electric costs (coal is cheap and plentiful). They choose, right or wrong depending on your bias, to emphasize the move to renewable sources for both at increased cost for the consumer.
 
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SSVol said:
I'm not talking about taxing gas at the consumer level. I'm talking about regulatory climates and tax incentive vs penalties. The current EV market is substantially driven by subsidy and a friendly regulatory environment. That absolutely has a long term effect on the price of and viability of that market. If the government decided one day that gas was good, and incentivized production while reducing regulatory burden, there is zero doubt that the price of gas drops over the long term.

You're about to see the effect of that type of government pivot with regard to semiconductor manufacturing. We've been giving away foundry capacity for many years, and that has led to foreign dependence and vulnerability that is killing us now. Intel, TI and others are now being driven by government to repatriate foundry capacity (Intel CEO described it as "government is now a wind at our backs"), which in a few years will translate into adequate supply at reasonable prices, domestically sourced and secure from foreign meddling. There is zero reason they can't do the same thing with fuel, if they wanted to. Ditto for electric costs (coal is cheap and plentiful). They choose, right or wrong depending on your bias, to emphasize the move to renewable sources for both at increased cost for the consumer.
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I agree your reasons have an effect but it is but a piece of a much larger puzzle. As for coal, ask the folks that live around Bull Run if that is a great source of energy.
 
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VinnieVOL said:
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That is my favorite reply ever!
Ace is a legend.
 
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peaygolf said:
seen them 10 times!
Saw Ace 2 times solo……never a bad show. Best live band ever
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I'm close! 8 times. Here lately we've had to drive to Nashville or Charlotte since they stopped coming to TBA. Believe their last time in Knox was the Aerosmith show correct?

What was the earliest you saw them? I'm early 40s so my first time (of eight) was the Farewell Tour. Lol
 
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VinnieVOL said:
I'm close! 8 times. Here lately we've had to drive to Nashville or Charlotte since they stopped coming to TBA. Believe their last time in Knox was the Aerosmith show correct?

What was the earliest you saw them? I'm early 40s so my first time (of eight) was the Farewell Tour. Lol
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1990…. I was 20
Hot in the Shade. Saw them on the “farewell” tour in Nashville and Memphis
 
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peaygolf said:
Always a good show.
Poison shows are fun too!!

Two worst shows I ever saw were “Van Hagar” and one Aerosmith concert. Aerosmith were great the other 3 times
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My worst was Pat Benetar. She Just was not into it that night for some reason

My best was Roger Waters. Pink Floyd is the GOAT. Going to see him again in August.

Also the Bare Naked Ladies are great live too. Wasn't much of a fan, but they made me one that night
 
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vols 30 said:
My worst was Pat Benetar. She Just was not into it that night for some reason

My best was Roger Waters. Pink Floyd is the GOAT. Going to see him again in August.

Also the Bare Naked Ladies are great live too. Wasn't much of a fan, but they made me one that night
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Floyd was great. 1994 Joe Robbie Stadium in Miami.
 
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vols 30 said:
My worst was Pat Benetar. She Just was not into it that night for some reason

My best was Roger Waters. Pink Floyd is the GOAT. Going to see him again in August.

Also the Bare Naked Ladies are great live too. Wasn't much of a fan, but they made me one that night
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cant think of many worsts, maybe Scott Miller or WSP in 2012. Wait, hold it...Lauren Daigle. worst.

bests? horde in 95, kravitz, blues traveler. wsp at worlds fair park with violent femmes, ricky skaggs with ralph stanley in Harrogate, Neil McCoy (dude can entertain), Dark Star Orchestra at Pisgah Brewery.
 
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Jackcrevol said:
cant think of many worsts, maybe Scott Miller or WSP in 2012. Wait, hold it...Lauren Daigle. worst.

bests? horde in 95, kravitz, blues traveler. wsp at worlds fair park with violent femmes, ricky skaggs with ralph stanley in Harrogate, Neil McCoy (dude can entertain), Dark Star Orchestra at Pisgah Brewery.
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Neil McCoy is a really nice guy. Have met/hung with him on a couple of occasions.
 
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Jackcrevol said:
cant think of many worsts, maybe Scott Miller or WSP in 2012. Wait, hold it...Lauren Daigle. worst.

bests? horde in 95, kravitz, blues traveler. wsp at worlds fair park with violent femmes, ricky skaggs with ralph stanley in Harrogate, Neil McCoy (dude can entertain), Dark Star Orchestra at Pisgah Brewery.
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Dark Star were seriously a good time... seen them a bunch in Knoxville, Asheville, Colorado... Maybe the best cover band ever. Crowd really gets into it. I have some shows on CD that are great, especially the shows where they made their own setlist. Specifically like the ones with the later Dead tunes like So Many Roads and Lazy River Road...

Also, one of the worst shows ive seen was WSP at Radio City Music Hall in 2010... just terrible, and i've been a big WSP fan for a long time.
 
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Big Sun said:
Dark Star were seriously a good time... seen them a bunch in Knoxville, Asheville, Colorado... Maybe the best cover band ever. Crowd really gets into it. I have some shows on CD that are great, especially the shows where they made their own setlist. Specifically like the ones with the later Dead tunes like So Many Roads and Lazy River Road...

Also, one of the worst shows ive seen was WSP at Radio City Music Hall in 2010... just terrible, and i've been a big WSP fan for a long time.
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they were poop post houser
 
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Big Sun said:
yeah, prolly the worst i've seen them was in Greenville, SC with George McConnell. 2003. Absolute dogshit.
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figured 03 were some good shows. i enjoyed their new stuff that year. that was about the time made full on transition to bluegrass. never looked back
 
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ChrisVFL said:
I tweet this dude every time he makes a post about us (Vols).Just sending a lot of Respect and Love. I believe not only does he feel the connection with the staff but feels the love from the Vols fans to. Just gotta keep at it. Out of all the DLine players in the board , this guy is the one I hope we land the most. Super good at basketball to , so being the SEC Champs in Basketball couldn’t hurt.
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don't.
 
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