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culture at private schools are better.
Depends imo. I knew some pretty terrible private school "culture" when I was in high school. Multiple friends from my hometown got sent to private schools in Nashville for better education just for a core group of us at the public school to get higher test scores on average in our class versus theirs, and not get introduced to cocaine and assaults in school. So there's that.
 
Idk how to fix it. But I do know, from limited research, public schools in worst performing schools have as much if not more funding than private schools
Edit: I think I might know. Private schools kick out the kids that inhibit learning. Can't do that in public schools
so we should kick those kids out?

Some of the best hospitals in world that specialize in certain care have great numbers because they only take on treatable cases. Ergo 98% success rates, in example, is a flawed number.

Kids have to go to school somewhere. Send them to a statistically ****** school in a low rent area, chances are the bs numbers set by people who bought their ways into power, will yield bad results. and so on...
 
The real reason private school teachers work for less than public is. They get a big discount to send thier kids to that school.. ask me how I know!
Must be a new policy at Braircrest because when they hired my grandfather to be an assistant principal in the 70s they wouldn't give him discounts for his kids to attend. Ultimately, my grandfather took an public school admin job in the midstate and got the heck out of Memphis.
 
so we should kick those kids out?

Some of the best hospitals in world that specialize in certain care have great numbers because they only take on treatable cases. Ergo 98% success rates, in example, is a flawed number.

Kids have to go to school somewhere. Send them to a statistically ****** school in a low rent area, chances are the bs numbers set by people who bought their ways into power, will yield bad results. and so on...
You can lead a horse to water but u can't make them drink
 
Must be a new policy at Braircrest because when they hired my grandfather to be an assistant principal in the 70s they wouldn't give him discounts for his kids to attend. Ultimately, my grandfather took an public school admin job in the midstate and got the heck out of Memphis.
Check on it. There's a reason private school teachers work for less..
 
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i'm so thankful that we have it.

id love to put my oldest in private, but our elementary is like a private. fortunately johnson city decided to take out a $40 mill bond to redo founders park, add on to winged deer, and redo walnut. while the aging schools could use modernization, they have also kept class sizes small.
I'm guessing as to your elementary based on what you've provided. Last I heard your community is next to get a new school. That still in the works? Also, how old is your oldest? Middle school or high school?
 
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I'm guessing as to your elementary based on what you've provided. Last I heard your community is next to get a new school. That still in the works? Also, how old is your oldest? Middle school or high school?
elementary.

yes they are meeting as we speak but having a hard time meeting funding ( because they're broke ).
 
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so we should kick those kids out?

Some of the best hospitals in world that specialize in certain care have great numbers because they only take on treatable cases. Ergo 98% success rates, in example, is a flawed number.

Kids have to go to school somewhere. Send them to a statistically ****** school in a low rent area, chances are the bs numbers set by people who bought their ways into power, will yield bad results. and so on...
That's what India does. If you are unmotivated, misbehaving, or ILL they pretty much kick you out. Many schools iirc you test into but they're free (kinda like magnet school). But they don't waste their time with the bad eggs.

Pros: better education experience, less tax dollars needs, better environment for teachers, safer, etc
Cons: half your population has a <7th grade education level and you get the rampant overpopulation (uneducated have more children than educated), resource exhaustion, poor health and safety... oh and because of your bad standard of living you export your best and brightest to the United States, Canada, Australia, and Europe. Then they rarely come back.

If you think reading Facebook was bad enough, imagine Facebook where 60% of your friends on Facebook didn't make it to freshman year of high school before they hit the mines. So like, imagine if you lived in West Virginia or Kentucky.

(Disclaimer: that was a joke and I don't actually believe that)
 
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Depends imo. I knew some pretty terrible private school "culture" when I was in high school. Multiple friends from my hometown got sent to private schools in Nashville for better education just for a core group of us at the public school to get higher test scores on average in our class versus theirs, and not get introduced to cocaine and assaults in school. So there's that.
Yep. My wife knew plenty of private school kids. She always said they just used a higher class of drug. Ha.

I on the other hand am a product of one of the poorest systems in this great state but wouldn't change it for anything. Lots of successful people came out of that little k-12 school. Some of them on this board even. 🤪
 
That's what India does. If you are unmotivated, misbehaving, or ILL they pretty much kick you out. Many schools iirc you test into but they're free (kinda like magnet school). But they don't waste their time with the bad eggs.

Pros: better education experience, less tax dollars needs, better environment for teachers, safer, etc
Cons: half your population has a <7th grade education level and you get the rampant overpopulation (uneducated have more children than educated), resource exhaustion, poor health and safety... oh and because of your bad standard of living you export your best and brightest to the United States, Canada, Australia, and Europe. Then they rarely come back.

If you think reading Facebook was bad enough, imagine Facebook where 60% of your friends on Facebook didn't make it to freshman year of high school before they hit the mines. So like, imagine if you lived in West Virginia or Kentucky.

(Disclaimer: that was a joke and I don't actually believe that)
Facebook is ridiculous. West VA is like that.

And #Hair Life, that one just makes me laugh out loud. Like you're proud of that?
 
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Yep. My wife knew plenty of private school kids. She always said they just used a higher class of drug. Ha.

I on the other hand am a product of one of the poorest systems in this great state but wouldn't change it for anything. Lots of successful people came out of that little k-12 school. Some of them on this board even. 🤪
You can make it from nowhere and you can fail from anywhere. Some people have a harder path to make it and some people have a harder path to fail.

At the end of the day it comes down to you.
 
That's what India does. If you are unmotivated, misbehaving, or ILL they pretty much kick you out. Many schools iirc you test into but they're free (kinda like magnet school). But they don't waste their time with the bad eggs.

Pros: better education experience, less tax dollars needs, better environment for teachers, safer, etc
Cons: half your population has a <7th grade education level and you get the rampant overpopulation (uneducated have more children than educated), resource exhaustion, poor health and safety... oh and because of your bad standard of living you export your best and brightest to the United States, Canada, Australia, and Europe. Then they rarely come back.

If you think reading Facebook was bad enough, imagine Facebook where 60% of your friends on Facebook didn't make it to freshman year of high school before they hit the mines. So like, imagine if you lived in West Virginia or Kentucky.

(Disclaimer: that was a joke and I don't actually believe that)

Had several Indian friends in college. I used to joke about how smart Indians were. One day he looked at me and said, "You only see the ones that come over here. We leave the dumb ones in India."
 
Yep. My wife knew plenty of private school kids. She always said they just used a higher class of drug. Ha.

I on the other hand am a product of one of the poorest systems in this great state but wouldn't change it for anything. Lots of successful people came out of that little k-12 school. Some of them on this board even. 🤪
My buds in college were from Rockwood & Cookeville, and Atl.

One of them a private school moran, others, not.

All Docs now.

How badly do you want it? #over the middle
 
So, it's corrupt politicians? Which seems to be the worst are in " major cities"
More like the state keeps adding crap that the school system needs to do and instead of adding those positions to the school they hire their friends kids in some downtown position. This is also a reason why our education system is on a downward trend. We're led by individuals who have never been in the classroom, only spent 1-2 years in there classroom, or elementary teachers who have absolutely no idea what a species is in chemistry but are telling me what I have to teach in a specialized class
 
Private schools are not inherently good or bad, but they are free to do what they want. Public schools usually have their hands tied, limited in what and how they can teach, prevented from setting the highest standards, and forced to accommodate. The deck is stacked against teachers.

My kids went to a school that demanded excellence. It was hard. Every day. The students in that school absolutely excelled, because it was expected. They found college laughably easy because of it. But there is no way public school teachers would ever be allowed to do that, and no matter how good they are, they'll struggle to produce the same results.
 
Had several Indian friends in college. I used to joke about how smart Indians were. One day he looked at me and said, "You only see the ones that come over here. We leave the dumb ones in India."
Yep. Got a scrawny, malnourished Indian dude in our research facility who made the decision to skip meals as a kid so his grandmother and uncle could pay his afterschool tutoring. His dad was a millionaire but was murdered by his other uncle for the money so he grew up poor. His cousins (all lived in a house with 30 people) used to abuse and bully him while he studied, starving himself, while they didn't go to school but had food. He tested into India's MIT, got his degree, is now over here finishing masters and going for PhD. He actually wants to go back and help his community.

That's how India produces so many of the brightest minds yet still has a horribly uneducated populace.
 
It's really not that complicated. It is a reverse causation.

Private school kids will tend to do better because...shockingly, their parents will correlate to higher earners, higher IQs and more resources such as tutors, with fewer extreme cases (not many private school kids will have to go home to a crack house while walking home by gangs or meth neighbors in trailer park). Add to that fewer kids per teacher (another benefit of resources)...

There isn't any special sauce outside of that, within the U.S...which is why even U.S. private schools trail many foreign public schools. After that it comes down to culture. America focuses more on stupid shiz like sports and celebrities than glorifying engineers, doctors, accountants, ya know...the people that make the world go round. The same groups many immigrants look up to.


All said, a majority of the most f****ed up kids I ended up knowing went to private school (almost all went to Catholic HS in Knoxville) and I knew a ton of them. Go figure...😒
 
It's really not that complicated. It is a reverse causation.

Private school kids will tend to do better because...shockingly, their parents will correlate to higher earners, higher IQs and more resources such as tutors, with fewer extreme cases (not many private school kids will have to go home to a crack house while walking home by gangs or meth neighbors in trailer park). Add to that fewer kids per teacher (another benefit of resources)...

There isn't any special sauce outside of that, within the U.S...which is why even U.S. private schools trail many foreign public schools. After that it comes down to culture. America focuses more on stupid shiz like sports and celebrities than glorifying engineers, doctors, accountants, ya know...the people that make the world go round. The same groups many immigrants look up to.


All said, a majority of the most f****ed up kids I ended up knowing went to private school (almost all went to Catholic HS in Knoxville) and I knew a ton of them. Go figure...😒

I went to public school. My kids went to private. They did 3x the work I did. Wrote dozens of papers every year, hundreds over their 12 years. Four or five years of Latin, massive vocabulary, advanced grammar, rhetoric, logic. Senior thesis with oral defense was a significant part of their final grade. College level stuff.

Yes, demographics played a role, but so did hard work and high expectations, something we do less of with each passing year.
 

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