'21 Recruiting Forum: Official Bowling Green Pregame/Game Thread

What were they?
Are you asking for me to break down the game tape at 12:40am? Dude, I’m just saying that there were obviously adjustments made, because they couldn’t rely on the plays that had worked so well for them in the 2nd quarter. If we were playing those routes the same, they would’ve kept running them. We adjusted
 
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Some people here are just miserable humans. Defense held them to 6. Offense could as easily had 52, or even 59, as 38. Milton wasn't amazing, but not as bad as the receivers made it look, so CJH put together a plan that worked. I saw a team that looked prepared, convincingly win a game they should've, but it was the first game with a completely new staff and system, after losing half of the friggen team. No they didn't look like Bama. They also didn't look like the team that lost to GaSt...in Pruitt's 2nd year.
 
Some people here are just miserable humans. Defense held them to 6. Offense could as easily had 52, or even 59, as 38. Milton wasn't amazing, but not as bad as the receivers made it look, so CJH put together a plan that worked. I saw a team that looked prepared, convincingly win a game they should've, but it was the first game with a completely new staff and system, after losing half of the friggen team. No they didn't look like Bama. They also didn't look like the team that lost to GaSt...in Pruitt's 2nd year.
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Some people here are just miserable humans. Defense held them to 6. Offense could as easily had 52, or even 59, as 38. Milton wasn't amazing, but not as bad as the receivers made it look, so CJH put together a plan that worked. I saw a team that looked prepared, convincingly win a game they should've, but it was the first game with a completely new staff and system, after losing half of the friggen team. No they didn't look like Bama. They also didn't look like the team that lost to GaSt...in Pruitt's 2nd year.
Agree with all that, I think we have a good staff. It's great that we won, but it was a glorified HS team...and Milton has to play better if we are going to get to 6-7 wins.
 
I know we’re all fans here and overreactions are part of that I guess, but I try to be level headed about it to keep realistic expectations. I feel like through an honest lense, Milton was not good tonight, but I don’t think it was all him. I’m not taking up for his performance, but we don’t have to make blanket statements after 1 game. The talent is obvious, but it needs refinement. The JG comparisons at this point are really ignorant. I’m telling you, Drew Lock had some stinkers early in his time with Heupel also and he turned out alright. It’s too early for all that nonsense, and we have to guard against taking the past out on Heupel and his players. They deserve a clean slate no matter how bad the last 13 years have been. Or more recently, how bad JG was.

What are the facts: It is a new system and Milton has only been here since summer with 2 scrimmages before tonight. Also, he’s playing with new teammates, many who have not played significantly in actual games. There are obvious chemistry issues, but it’s certainly not unexpected. Those things are true.

Also true, he didn’t appear to see the field very well at times. There were times he had guys open and either didn’t see them or didn’t see them on time. We also don’t know the primary on every route though and what he has been taught to do.

My biggest beef was holding the ball too long. If it’s not there within 3 seconds he needs to check it down or take off. I feel like he’s sort of going to have to learn to play as if he didn’t have so much talent to be effective. Just because you can throw it 80 yards doesn’t mean you should wait 10 seconds for your guys to get downfield to chuck it, especially if the guy isn’t really open.

But as much as I’ve watched this offense and as simple as it seems, there’s still a lot of things that are hard to know exactly what the thought process is. Like any new system it will just take time. Heupel has been able to get things going in year one before though.

If you’ve never watched or have not seen this offense much, it takes time to really understand what they are trying to do. There’s a lot of set up plays they run that you have to hit before you take the big shot. There’s a lot of option routes where the QB has to wait on the receiver to make his choice which way he’s going. And then there’s seeing what the defense is giving you. Bowling green was playing a very soft 3-3-5 and 3-2-6 to prevent the downfield shots. I actually felt like their gameplan was really good they just didn’t have the guys to execute it against superior talent. I feel like a lot of teams will play us this way and that means we are going to have to run the ball. We did tonight, but I felt like when Cooper went out things really got off track. I hope he can get back out there next week.

I know this is a lot of random blabbering, but just some thoughts. I hope people will try to give Milton a fair shot and not throw out “JG” every time there’s a bad play. There’s going to be inconsistencies, although it was kind of a roller coaster tonight, there is still some good stuff to build on, but still a lot to clean up. I hope Milton will keep growing in his understanding and decision making. If he doesn’t, then make the switch, but they say the biggest improvement comes from game 1 to game 2 so let’s see how he does next week before jumping to conclusions.
 
It’s so cool to go on YouTube and see fans of other teams like South Carolina just mock us to death. Isn’t great to be the running joke of CF?
 
Lol...I have not seen your posts but the last few so no idea who was being miserable. Thought you saw hugh issues before the season started so why are you acting surprised?
I'm not, but I was hoping Milton would be better. I'm not upset, I said 5-7 6-6 was likely if we didn't get good QB play.

I think the staff did a great job with adjustments and counter adjustments tonight. I think we have made a good hire.
 
Milton appears to be of average talent excluding the strong arm. I give him a C grade. Maybe our depth at receiver will be better next week and after.

You may end up proving to be right that Milton just is what he is. But I'm pretty happy riding with him for awhile and seeing where it goes. Possibilities are endless if he dials in. He has NFL traits that you can't coach. Defenses have to account for it. The stuff he struggles with can be directly worked on. You can't bench him. Not yet. You coach'm up and build him into a winner. We've likely got 2 years to do it. Just gotta execute better all around cause games won't always be that easy to win.

Also can we get a damn victory formation? I dont necessarily love the agression at the end when you can just end the game. But then again maybe he felt like the 2nd unit needed the reps. Whatever. Just beat Florida and i'll let it go.
 
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I don't know why they won't give him a chance.

I think he could probably use another year to develop. Nothing he showed last year or even in the spring makes me think we're hiding a secret superstar in the QB3 spot. I hope Bailey sticks around. I do believe in him long term. He could be crazy good but hes gonna have to dominate mentally and physically and take this job if he wants it. I think he will get his chance at some point. Possibly this year. If Milton struggles possibly soon. He's a good option to have in the room for sure.
 
Agree with all that, I think we have a good staff. It's great that we won, but it was a glorified HS team...and Milton has to play better if we are going to get to 6-7 wins.

Not sure about BG. They had some nice catches. They may end up better than last year.

I've seen Bama look pretty pedestrian against lesser opponents in the first game. We'll get better.
 
Happy to have a W. Hope for at least 5 more this season.

One thing UCF fans said when Heupel was hired was that his offense stayed in the same formation. 4 WR split out wide with a RB with QB. Think Heupel changes some formations as the season progresses?

*Rewatching now. Have noticed some different formations in the second half.
 
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It’s so cool to go on YouTube and see fans of other teams like South Carolina just mock us to death. Isn’t great to be the running joke of CF?
Why are your feelings hurt so easy? WGAF what South Carolina fans say? We will beat the piss out of them in a few weeks and everybody knows it
 
Some people here are just miserable humans. Defense held them to 6. Offense could as easily had 52, or even 59, as 38. Milton wasn't amazing, but not as bad as the receivers made it look, so CJH put together a plan that worked. I saw a team that looked prepared, convincingly win a game they should've, but it was the first game with a completely new staff and system, after losing half of the friggen team. No they didn't look like Bama. They also didn't look like the team that lost to GaSt...in Pruitt's 2nd year.
Here here!!! Well said! I can’t believe the legion of the miserable up in here whining about a 32 point win, in which the outcome of the game was never in doubt. I was more relaxed watching the game last night than I have been in years. Why? We look like we have actually been coached in the short amount of time this staff has been with the team. And what else did we see during the game? COACHING!! We actually saw in-game adjustments!!! Imagine that! While there are a lot of things to clean up and we need to work on the passing game A LOT, we are in good hands with this staff and will be just fine.

Like I told our private Volnation text group, I can handle losing games, as long as we play to win. We came out with a game plan last night that was to win the game. We were aggressive on both sides of the ball. That’s what I like to see. The defense looked way better than I ever expected minus the 2 possessions in the 2nd quarter. We played fast and attacked. Can’t wait to be in Neyland next Saturday and watch them.
 
I think he could probably use another year to develop. Nothing he showed last year or even in the spring makes me think we're hiding a secret superstar in the QB3 spot. I hope Bailey sticks around. I do believe in him long term. He could be crazy good but hes gonna have to dominate mentally and physically and take this job if he wants it. I think he will get his chance at some point. Possibly this year. If Milton struggles possibly soon. He's a good option to have in the room for sure.
I don't think he is all there yet either, I'm not asking that he start, I just want him to get a chance to work.
 
Some people here are just miserable humans. Defense held them to 6. Offense could as easily had 52, or even 59, as 38. Milton wasn't amazing, but not as bad as the receivers made it look, so CJH put together a plan that worked. I saw a team that looked prepared, convincingly win a game they should've, but it was the first game with a completely new staff and system, after losing half of the friggen team. No they didn't look like Bama. They also didn't look like the team that lost to GaSt...in Pruitt's 2nd year.
I can be frustrated with some of what I saw last night.... And still say, this post is accurate.👍
 
The word of the day ... Vanilla.

That's what we saw on both sides of the ball.
Heupel didn't give Pitt anything other than a healthy fear Milton can run . I also argue he will hit those bombs .

Why throw when you can run it? If that continues to work against Pitt we will see Vanilla again.

I saw patience on Heupel's part.
 
The word of the day ... Vanilla.

That's what we saw on both sides of the ball.
Heupel didn't give Pitt anything other than a healthy fear Milton can run . I also argue he will hit those bombs .

Why throw when you can run it? If that continues to work against Pitt we will see Vanilla again.

I saw patience on Heupel's part.
Game plan was good. Execution wasnt.

That can be corrected. I just do not understand why in almost an effing decade why our QB play is so putrid.

If I can, I'm going to hve game on radio on Sat then be outside. It's just bad football.
 
The word of the day ... Vanilla.

That's what we saw on both sides of the ball.
Heupel didn't give Pitt anything other than a healthy fear Milton can run . I also argue he will hit those bombs .

Why throw when you can run it? If that continues to work against Pitt we will see Vanilla again.

I saw patience on Heupel's part.
Agree

I wish I'd seen something in the passing game that made me stand up and get excited, but that wasn't needed last night, A 32 point win, with nothing more than basic runs, was nice to see.
Overall Offensive grade (B)
Overall Defensive grade (A-)

CJH has game film to watch and hopefully improve the passing game. Milton needs to know it's ok to make a mistake every so often. Take a chance or two. Receivers also need to make some catches.
 
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It’ll be interesting to see if Pitt can get pressure with three men. BG couldn’t do it tonight.
This. BG took away the pass by dropping 7 and we still gained over 300 yards on the ground like we should have. Milton definitely needs to be better in his reads and it seemed like he scanned one side of the field the whole night.
 
You're never as good or as bad as you think you are.

Lots of room for improvement.

You greatest improvement comes from the first game to the second game.

Milton wasn't as good as I was expecting. He's big and athletic and has a huge arm but I'm not sure he's a great passer. I told the 5* texting group last night that I needed to work with old Joe. I would have him watch me throw it as hard as I could and tell him to "throw it like that". I'm not sure the man knows the word touch. I don't think he's seeing the field. Left a lot of passing yards out there. You'd think with him having all that time that he could find one of them. I'm not convinced he's the answer.

The receivers were a disappointment, especially Hyatt. Can't believe he had the two drops. I think he'll have much better outings than last night. Not sure where in the world VJ was.

While we rushed for a lot of yards, it was very workman like. Nothing really spectacular. I like all of our backs. I'm excited to see the big bruiser come in to see what he can do. I don't think we saw much of the passing game to the running backs or even tight ends. I expect that to change.

Oline was about what I expected.

The dline was about what I expected. I loved they way they were substituting the entire unit. I think it will get better when BY joins the ranks.

Did the line backers make any significant plays? I saw Banks a couple of times but for the most part they didn't really shine. That's definitely a concern.

The secondary surprised me, in a bad way. I really thought that unit was going to be a strength. Maybe scheme had something to do with it. They seemed to adjust and take so e of that away. Their coach said something about changing the play after we showed our hand. I think we may have started disguising our coverages a bit which may have helped.


All in all about what I expected game wise. Lots of room for improvement. My biggest disappointment was not having a big enough lead to give Bailey and Hooker meaningful reps. I think it helps to have the extra time to prepare for Pitt. I think it's the biggest game of the year from a momentum perspective.

GBO
 

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