‘23 Recruiting Forum: Official Florida Pregame/Game Thread

[volsagain]

But calling is atrocious at every Tennessee game. The only consistency is the complete lack of consistency. It makes CFB unfun to watch, a ****ing flag gets thrown every other play. Its mentally exhausting, and ruins any momentum either team has.

You're telling me that Tennessee REALLY committed 120 yrds worth of fouls? Further, that an officiating crew REALLY needed to inject themselves into the game to call 150+ yards in penalties? That's like a police captain giving officers a quota. Why? Perhaps if they hadnt been so busy writing tickets they couldve gotten the detail right, spotting the ball.

Its really un watchable.

In both games, opposing teams held, AND interferred. WHY isnt that called?

Most people don't realize 2or 3 calls a game on the away team can most certainly change the outcome. Instead of 1st and 10 it's 3rd and 20 . We got screwed 3 or 4 times in big moments. Several holding calls should have been called on there offensive line. We still had a chance when the holding by there db wasn't called. These refs are so freaking hard to not hate. But our defense game plan 1st half was terrible. We have the guys that should be attaching not reacting.

 

[NMVol]

One more thing. How many pts did the refs take, 14, 21?

 

[JCVol00]

One more thing. How many pts did the refs take, 14, 21?

They completely ruined 2 potential scoring drives in 2nd half, missed 4 holds on UF, missed PI, and on the florida TD where Mertz sneaked it the LG jumped early but nothing was called

 

[RikidyBones]

They completely ruined 2 potential scoring drives in 2nd half, missed 4 holds on UF, missed PI, and on the florida TD where Mertz sneaked it the LG jumped early but nothing was called

I wish false starts were reviewable.

 

[JCVol00]

I wish false starts were reviewable.

I wish blindside blocks were

 

[LakesiteVol]

If those blocks are going to be called blindside blocks, you need to stop playing football period. I don't want to see people get hurt, but those blocks are what football is all about.

 

[#Vol4Life1991]

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My god thats just horrendous. It was even worse seeing it in person. Take it or leave it, but the popularity of sports gambling has definitely had an affect on sports across the board here in the usa

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

Wrong. Never completed a touchdown pass while moving out of the pocket. Don’t know how many opportunities he has had.

Ahh you are correct I believe. Either way, that is a terrible stat.

 

[RikidyBones]

I wish blindside blocks were

I wish a bad blindside call could result in a crack back on the ref. Joe should have thrown a missile at his nuts.

 

[UTgrad2015]

At least we can put the “Heupel has a plug and play system” narrative to bed. Looking forward to the Nico/Matthews offense in the upcoming seasons

 

[Smokey123]

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Wow

 

[Smokey123]

Honestly I think our history with Florida is blinding fans of that fact. Those guys don't call out refs multiple time unless something bad is going down

Yea… it’s foolish to blame the loss on the refs but it’s also foolish to not at least admit they slowed down any chance of a comeback. The “kicked ball” but especially the blind side block killed us. I mean if you score a TD on just one of those drives and the final 10 minutes becomes veryyyyy interesting. The roughing the passer on herring was BS too, which would have made it 3rd and 10 and Florida wasn’t moving the ball at all and mertz was hurt and would have made him pass. That play resulted in Florida kicking a FG and taking another 5 minutes off the clock

 

[UT_Tix79]

Herring totally shoulder checked their QB. It was a dumb play and completely avoidable. Yes, he didn’t blow him up like he could have, but it was completely unnecessary. The flag was warranted.

The blindside block was borderline, had he not hit him so high I’d bet it doesn’t get called, but he hit him high and it looked a lot worse than it actually was.

Nothing we can do about the kicked ball, that was just terrible. But our play call had 0 chance of success there. We didn’t use Milton’s legs all game basically. It was infuriating. We hamstrung ourselves with some really terrible play calls.

 

[Smokey123]

Herring totally shoulder checked their QB. It was a dumb play and completely avoidable. Yes, he didn’t blow him up like he could have, but it was completely unnecessary. The flag was warranted.

The blindside block was borderline, had he not hit him so high I’d bet it doesn’t get called, but he hit him high and it looked a lot worse than it actually was.

Nothing we can do about the kicked ball, that was just terrible. But our play call had 0 chance of success there. We didn’t use Milton’s legs all game basically. It was infuriating. We hamstrung ourselves with some really terrible play calls.

Dumb play? Sure. Warranting a roughing the passer call? No. The blindside block wasn’t borderline it was one of the worst calls you’ll see all year. Even Kirk and Fowler and the rule analyst were saying it’s awful and happens every single game and the refs were bad

If herring’s is a flag so is when Desmond Watson pile drove Milton into the ground

 

[UT_Tix79]

I agree, I honestly thought Watson should have gotten a penalty for landing on Milton with all 700 pounds of him

 

[Smokey123]

I agree, I honestly thought Watson should have gotten a penalty for landing on Milton with all 700 pounds of him

Which takes away Milton’s INT and UF score to go up 19-7. No matter how you spin it the refs were awful

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Really don’t see how anyone who actually watched the game doesn’t see how after a horrendous first half on our part we were on track for a huge comeback in the 2nd half had the refs not made the worst calls college football history. I know most people don’t want to blame refs but this was a glaring issue in the 2nd half that even two announcers, including one who’s known to hate on us, called it out. Still sick from seeing something like that.

You are right...but if our defense didn't play like pureed in the first a huge comeback would not have been necessary.

That'd two weeks in row the officials have played a massive role in our struggles on offense...it seems blind stupidity to believe that it isn't on purpose.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

At least we can put the “Heupel has a plug and play system” narrative to bed. Looking forward to the Nico/Matthews offense in the upcoming seasons

Heupel hasn't had an offense struggle like this in a loooooong time...he has gotten good production out of mediocre QBs.

 

[I4Jay]

This coaching staff HAS to take a personal inventory. There needs to be self scouting starting right now. There are too many blind spots. Maybe hire an outside analyst. For there to be the SAME issue each year (penalties and piss poor road play) is no excuse.
We are not prepared for every situation. No stone should be unturned. Letting defenses dictate every big offensive drive. If you can’t trust your QB to line up and go fast, then either yiur QB isn’t good enough or your not communicating the game plan during the week well enough.

 

[jave36]

Herring totally shoulder checked their QB. It was a dumb play and completely avoidable. Yes, he didn’t blow him up like he could have, but it was completely unnecessary. The flag was warranted.

The blindside block was borderline, had he not hit him so high I’d bet it doesn’t get called, but he hit him high and it looked a lot worse than it actually was.

Nothing we can do about the kicked ball, that was just terrible. But our play call had 0 chance of success there. We didn’t use Milton’s legs all game basically. It was infuriating. We hamstrung ourselves with some really terrible play calls.

The blindside was not borderline. Every official in the world knows if it's not hard enough for a** to hit grass it's not a blindside penalty. Middle school officials would get kicked off crews for an atrocious call like that.

 

[UT_Tix79]

I have a friend that’s an SEC ref, and he said they said to focus on illegal crack back blocks. Is the player moving, yes. Are they moving towards a player not looking, yes. Do they hit player that isn’t looking, yes.

He said “they’ve stressed this call all season in our meetings. it’s a penalty 10/10 times even if we don’t personally agree”

 

[jave36]

I have a friend that’s an SEC ref, and he said they said to focus on illegal crack back blocks. Is the player moving, yes. Are they moving towards a player not looking, yes. Do they hit player that isn’t looking, yes.

He said “they’ve stressed this call all season in our meetings. it’s a penalty 10/10 times even if we don’t personally agree”

My SEC ref friend (and boss) said crack back has to be hard enough for a** to hit grass.

 

[De La Cloobs]

I have a friend that’s an SEC ref, and he said they said to focus on illegal crack back blocks. Is the player moving, yes. Are they moving towards a player not looking, yes. Do they hit player that isn’t looking, yes.

He said “they’ve stressed this call all season in our meetings. it’s a penalty 10/10 times even if we don’t personally agree”

If that's considered a crack back block... you're throwing a flag almost every down.

Let's not sit here and pretend that call was the right thing to do.

Austin Peay did way worse to one of our players and was NOT called for it, and I agreed with the no call.

The fact your SEC ref friend said that kind of solidifies how bad the officiating truly is in this conference. I hope he isn't officiating any of our games going forward.

 

[#Vol4Life1991]

I have a friend that’s an SEC ref, and he said they said to focus on illegal crack back blocks. Is the player moving, yes. Are they moving towards a player not looking, yes. Do they hit player that isn’t looking, yes.

He said “they’ve stressed this call all season in our meetings. it’s a penalty 10/10 times even if we don’t personally agree”

So you aren’t legally to block someone if you aren’t directly in front of them and they have to see you in some capacity?

 

[UT_Tix79]

That’s why it’s called an illegal crack back block. It’s a very vague penalty, but this meets the criteria according the my ref friend. This is what he sent me.

An illegal crackback block occurs when an offensive player comes from more than two yards outside the offensive tackle, or from the backfield, and makes contact below the waist, above the neck, from a blind side, or from behind.