‘23 Recruiting Forum: Official Kentucky Pregame/Game Thread

[Orange.]

Kensucky board: A realist emerges...

 

[Orange_Crush]

He’s a good guy and coach, he should bail out of UK asap and go to a school that actually supports football and he would actually be successful

He has the best contract in college football, when you consider dollars-to-expectations.

 

[Orange.]

Is this a facemask penalty if we commit it?

 

[JCVol00]

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They would also find a way to call targeting on us as well if we did that

 

[OGbabyaviVol]

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100%. Joe needs to learn how to tuck the ball better.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

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We won

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

I’ll never understand why this fat tub of lard is so “beloved.” He’s a mediocre recruiter. Mediocre position coach. Has had zero tight ends drafted at Kensucky under his watch.

He talks trash on Twitter so they love him though.

 

[drylo]

He’s a mediocre recruiter. Mediocre position coach. Has had zero tight ends drafted at Kensucky under his watch.

He talks trash on Twitter so they love him though.

I’m not sure why you’re confused… sounds like he embodies UK football perfectly, so figures he’d be beloved there.

 

[Glitch]

Not sure of that exact thing. But, I did see a lot of zone last night.

We were hoping we could rush four. Which just hsnt worked recently, not sure what the change was.

Also, when we did blitz. We came up empty handed. Got to find a way to get to the QB.

 

[Sugaray13]

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Suck it, Kensucky.

faking an injury IMO!!

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Keep seeing stuff like this with no mention of how cheated the pass rush was. Weird.

 

[Jackcrevol]

how are lions 5-2?

 

[Midas]

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They were grab horse collars all game too. Remember a couple bad ones to bring squirrel and Jaylen down. Can’t remember but think I saw them do it to Dylan too. This is getting more and more obvious by the week and the school really needs to say something about it. Maybe Heupel is worried if he says something about it more calls will go against us.

 

[Jimmy Football]

how are lions 5-2?

They won’t be for much longer.

 

[Orange.]

They were grab horse collars all game too. Remember a couple bad ones to bring squirrel and Jaylen down. Can’t remember but think I saw them do it to Dylan too. This is getting more and more obvious by the week and the school really needs to say something about it. Maybe Heupel is worried if he says something about it more calls will go against us.

Great points! Thank you for reminding us.

We all saw the horse collars, they were solely against our players, and never called. That is yet another form of the Birmingham officials intervening to change the outcome of our games: (1) through failure to assess of the penalty and ejecting repeat offenders, and (2) because it "bangs up" or hurts our RBs, and (3) it can -- and has in the past -- outright injured them such that they cannot play. It is massive intervention in game outcomes.

Sampson missed several games last year following a horse collar tackle. And we don't know if that was not the reason Wright left the game against KY. Finally, (4) (and this is under appreciated) it vividly serves public notice to the defense and also to our RBs that dirty and illicit hits on our players are permitted, and (as obviously permitted) encouraged. The same thing was done last week by Birmingham not calling the many personal foul penalties against Alabama. That seriously affected or rigged the game outcome.

In all of these cases, the Birmingham Officials are deliberately putting player safety at risk for the sake of influencing outcomes. It strikes of criminality.

As to the SEC Office compelling Heupel not to respond by means of an implied standing threat to go further in rigging outcomes against us as retaliation if Heupel does so: that is something that has been mentioned before with good reason. It acts in addition to the SEC's explicit fines and sanctions. It is a standing threat made real by the SEC officials demonstrated willingness and extensive history calling biased games against us regularly and with impunity.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Great points! Thank you for reminding us.

We all saw the horse collars, they were solely against our players, and never called. That is yet another form of the Birmingham officials intervening to change the outcome of our games: (1) through failure to assess of the penalty and ejecting repeat offenders, and (2) because it "bangs up" or hurts our RBs, and (3) it can -- and has in the past -- outright injured them such that they cannot play. It is massive intervention in game outcomes.

Sampson missed several games last year following a horse collar tackle. And we don't know if that was not the reason Wright left the game against KY. Finally, (4) (and this is under appreciated) it vividly serves public notice to the defense and also to our RBs that dirty and illicit hits on our players are permitted, and (as obviously permitted) encouraged. The same thing was done last week by Birmingham not calling the many personal foul penalties against Alabama. That seriously affected or rigged the game outcome.

In all of these cases, the Birmingham Officials are deliberately putting player safety at risk for the sake of influencing outcomes. It strikes of criminality.

As to the SEC Office compelling Heupel not to respond by means of an implied standing threat to go further in rigging outcomes against us as retaliation if Heupel does so: that is something that has been mentioned before with good reason. It acts in addition to the SEC's explicit fines and sanctions. It is a standing threat made real by the SEC officials demonstrated willingness and extensive history calling biased games against us regularly and with impunity.

I get the argument that calls/no calls are intended to sway games. But you're arguing that the SEC is hoping to get our players hurt?

 

[Vawlz]

As to the SEC Office compelling Heupel not to respond by means of an implied standing threat to go further in rigging outcomes against us as retaliation if Heupel does so: that is something that has been mentioned before with good reason. It acts in addition to the SEC's explicit fines and sanctions. It is a standing threat made real by the SEC officials demonstrated willingness and extensive history calling biased games against us regularly and with impunity.

You have any basis for this accusation?

Look, I'm as pissed as everyone else about the lack of live-ball penalties the last two games when UT players are being mauled, but posters are acting like the SEC office is conspiring solely against UT without any tangible evidence.

 

[OGbabyaviVol]

You have any basis for this accusation?

Look, I'm as pissed as everyone else about the lack of live-ball penalties the last two games when UT players are being mauled, but posters are acting like the SEC office is conspiring solely against UT without any tangible evidence.

Go check the stats posted the other day. We have almost 2.5x more penalties than our opponents in SEC play. The jaw-dropping stat is out of the only 20 penalties thrown against our opponents in 5 games, only 6 of them are live ball penalties. 6!!! That’s 1.2 per game! There is absolutely no way in 5 games that is possible. The numbers start to even out at some point yet here we are.

 

[Midas]

Go check the stats posted the other day. We have almost 2.5x more penalties than our opponents in SEC play. The jaw-dropping stat is out of the only 20 penalties thrown against our opponents in 5 games, only 6 of them are live ball penalties. 6!!! That’s 1.2 per game! There is absolutely no way in 5 games that is possible. The numbers start to even out at some point yet here we are.

Yeah it’s crazy and frustrating. Even more frustrating is this team could possibly be undefeated or just have one loss. People who say that it does not affect the outcome of a game most likely never played competitive team sports. Players can get frustrated and even lose motivation when refs are constantly making calls against their team. Really think Joe needs to pull a longest yard move and nail a ref in his junk with one of those fast balls lol. Maybe they’ll stop doing it then.

 

[OGbabyaviVol]

Yeah it’s crazy and frustrating. Even more frustrating is this team could possibly be undefeated or just have one loss. People who say that it does affect the outcome of a game most likely never played competitive team sports. Players can get frustrated and even lose motivation when refs are constantly making calls against their team. Really think Joe needs to pull a longest yard move and nail a ref in his junk with one of those fast balls lol. Maybe they’ll stop doing it then.

That would be perfect! I would give up an entire series to see Joe do that to a few of them.

 

[Midas]

That would be perfect! I would give up an entire series to see Joe do that to a few of them.

It’ll definitely cause some changes in the officiating crew mid game. I don’t think a human being could take a dart from Joe in that area and keep it intact. They’ll definitely be on a trip to the ER afterwards lmao.

 

[Ten_Titans]

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Considering we've had about a dozen facemasks on our Dline go uncalled in the last two games I'm gonna say no.

 

[BarrythesnoUT]

Yeah it’s crazy and frustrating. Even more frustrating is this team could possibly be undefeated or just have one loss. People who say that it does affect the outcome of a game most likely never played competitive team sports. Players can get frustrated and even lose motivation when refs are constantly making calls against their team. Really think Joe needs to pull a longest yard move and nail a ref in his junk with one of those fast balls lol. Maybe they’ll stop doing it then.

The head would be better.

"OOPS! My bad... Ready to give us a few calls yet?"

 

[InVOLuntary]

Go check the stats posted the other day. We have almost 2.5x more penalties than our opponents in SEC play. The jaw-dropping stat is out of the only 20 penalties thrown against our opponents in 5 games, only 6 of them are live ball penalties. 6!!! That’s 1.2 per game! There is absolutely no way in 5 games that is possible. The numbers start to even out at some point yet here we are.

At this point it takes a lot more faith that the SEC isn't intentionally punishing the Vols than it does to think they're not.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Great points! Thank you for reminding us.

We all saw the horse collars, they were solely against our players, and never called. That is yet another form of the Birmingham officials intervening to change the outcome of our games: (1) through failure to assess of the penalty and ejecting repeat offenders, and (2) because it "bangs up" or hurts our RBs, and (3) it can -- and has in the past -- outright injured them such that they cannot play. It is massive intervention in game outcomes.

Sampson missed several games last year following a horse collar tackle. And we don't know if that was not the reason Wright left the game against KY. Finally, (4) (and this is under appreciated) it vividly serves public notice to the defense and also to our RBs that dirty and illicit hits on our players are permitted, and (as obviously permitted) encouraged. The same thing was done last week by Birmingham not calling the many personal foul penalties against Alabama. That seriously affected or rigged the game outcome.

In all of these cases, the Birmingham Officials are deliberately putting player safety at risk for the sake of influencing outcomes. It strikes of criminality.

As to the SEC Office compelling Heupel not to respond by means of an implied standing threat to go further in rigging outcomes against us as retaliation if Heupel does so: that is something that has been mentioned before with good reason. It acts in addition to the SEC's explicit fines and sanctions. It is a standing threat made real by the SEC officials demonstrated willingness and extensive history calling biased games against us regularly and with impunity.

And that is why it is the absolute perfect system for cheating, there is ZERO recourse...imo that absolute fact is the greatest evidence that they are rigging outcomes. If they wanted transparency and guaranteed fairness in competition, the system would be set up to provide it, but the fact that it is set up to be punitive to anyone that complains says it all.