‘23 Recruiting Forum: Official Missouri Pregame/Game Thread

[HoleInTheRoof]

I think the locked in Mizzou podcast guy publishes his later in the day. I just listened to the newest published one and the only Tennessee talk was about how Mizzou is in a bad spot coming off an emotional tough road loss and Tennessee essentially had a bye week.

Host did go on to say he was still going to pick Mizzou. Likes the focus of the team and that they’re injury free for November.

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

 

[9876543vol]

I think the locked in Mizzou podcast guy publishes his later in the day. I just listened to the newest published one and the only Tennessee talk was about how Mizzou is in a bad spot coming off an emotional tough road loss and Tennessee essentially had a bye week.

Host did go on to say he was still going to pick Mizzou. Likes the focus of the team and that they’re injury free for November.

I believe Tennessee will win by two touchdowns at least.

 

[Jimmy Football]

That’s interesting. Most of the computer models have us with a slight edge. I figured this one would follow suit.

 

[Adam2014]

That’s interesting. Most of the computer models have us with a slight edge. I figured this one would follow suit.

THEY DONT PLAY FOOTBALL ON COMPUTERS PAWLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I believe they will call a neutral game , "they" need us to look good before the game against georgia, Missouri is no longer useful to "them" and will not be protected.
And yes, I believe the networks and the leagues work together to push certain scenarios or narratives, not quite wrestling, but very close.

I don't think they will call it on the level....the SEC is not doing this to us for any reason that makes good sense....they simply do not want us to escape the cellar.

Either way...the motive is irrelevant...I just don't think they are gonna call OH on Mizzou...they will assault our guys with impunity just like UConn and AP were allowed to.

 

[MarcoVol]

I don't think they will call it on the level....the SEC is not doing this to us for any reason that makes good sense....they simply do not want us to escape the cellar.

Either way...the motive is irrelevant...I just don't think they are gonna call OH on Mizzou...they will assault our guys with impunity just like UConn and AP were allowed to.

We’ve already escaped the cellar.

Stop playing the victim card.

 

[volsagain]

I believe Tennessee will win by two touchdowns at least.

I believe and hope we do what you believe

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

We’ve already escaped the cellar.

Stop playing the victim card.

I like you...despite many differences, so I'm editing what I originally posted..

So..I'll just say this...stop playing the blind dumbass cannon fodder card. If you're OK with getting dry ****** by the SEC crooks, that's up to you....me I say em!

 

[JCP201]

We need to win this game. Let's GO VOLS!!!! As for Refs, I think they will be okay this week-- The ones in power want Georgia to have a strong schedule. Yes, I'm definitely sitting in the "it's possibly rigged camp" but not to the point that they are out to get VOLS, just that they want to have at least one or more in the playoffs. Georgia needs that strong schedule and number one ranking could help Bama get in.

 

[Jackcrevol]

You are the problem...that is your go-to stupid-ass retort every f'n time...going after a thief that stole from you is not playing the ****** victim card.. you

I think he's saying the continual rhetoric about officiating is a victim mentality.

I think the officiating is completely awful, I mean it is. There is NO denying it. It IS slanted to Bama and UGA, but its because they're winning, as opposed to some thing handed down from Sankipoo.

The rub for me is the calls every year for officiating to be more fair. Yet it is taking a step back. And....it....absolutely sucks ****.

No logical person can set this officiating up as fair. THAT's why you see folks say that ifs preferential, bc, it is. But we cannot control that. You have to play perfectly sound football. And we arent doing that.

 

[LouderVol]

I think we should win. But we haven't played anyone either. Their win against K-State wasn't much but its better than Kentucky or TAMU that we have.

 

[Orange.]

I think he's saying the continual rhetoric about officiating is a victim mentality.

I think the officiating is completely awful, I mean it is. There is NO denying it. It IS slanted to Bama and UGA, but its because they're winning, as opposed to some thing handed down from Sankipoo.

The rub for me is the calls every year for officiating to be more fair. Yet it is taking a step back. And....it....absolutely sucks ****.

No logical person can set this officiating up as fair. THAT's why you see folks say that ifs preferential, bc, it is. But we cannot control that. You have to play perfectly sound football. And we arent doing that.

It's not "rhetoric." It is people stating facts of the matter very often with photographic or video evidence. The evidence in particular seems to really set a few people off.

And it is clearly incorrect and backwards for you to claim that "it is slanted to Bama* ... because they are winning." No, they are winning because it is slanted. That's the point in slanting it. Our game against Bama is abundant proof. But you would have to look at the plays and the calls and no-calls with more attention to detail than your posts display. No post-snap penalties against Bama despite their OL holding the entire second half with no calls, which went a long way to rigging the outcome, is only one case in point, but a major one. I'll not recapitulate all the calls and no-calls -- there are too many -- and if you cared, you would have already seen the documentation of many of them in this thread.

Now when you say

No logical person can set this officiating up as fair. THAT's why you see folks say that ifs preferential, bc, it is. [italics added]

that is accurate. But it is preferential both because it is one-sided and it changes outcomes. If not for the latter, it would be a mild annoyance compared to a real crisis in SEC football.

But then you do a third 180° and blame us for the rigging the Birmingham performs for
Bama as a long standing tradition that is only getting worse:

You have to play perfectly sound football. And we arent doing that.

Bama is not playing perfectly sound football, either. The calls and no-calls do decisive work for them.

Did you see the dirty hit on LSU's Daniels this week by Bama with no call or ejection? Are you familiar with the fact that Turner has done the same thing several times to change the projectory of games? Do you recall that they (and GA) did the same cheap shot cheating with impunity against Hendo in '21 with no calls?

@MarcoVol makes a living, so to speak, devoting all his posts and energy to criticizing Vols fan posters (sometimes fairly, sometimes not) but with no energy left over to criticize any other program or their takes or the clear pattern of officiating we have suffered. Since you obviously don't understand the slide he made from a literal construal of "cellar" to the erroneous conclusion that @Ulysees E. McGill is"playing the victim" by pointing out the persistent and biased officiating against us this year and not expecting any abatement, you should prolly not jump in.

* I'll leave UGA out of it because I haven't watched them this year.

 

[peaygolf]

Missouri doesn't belong in the SEC...........

Show them why!

 

[Orange.]

I'm saying just win man. We have to block out the noise.

We are not the team, Jack. We are free to point out the obvious rigging that the Birmingham office is up to. But since you mention it, can you imagine how difficult it is to have something like this happen to you as a player and for your team (on Bama's first TD of the second half) and know the deck is being stacked against you, and have to maintain you composure and confidence and tune it out? Over and over and over again. Our guys are heroes with incredible will and determination!

Just leave the subject alone, bruh.

 

[Orange.]

If anything is gonna put a stop to it, it’s your endless posts about it.

PUT ON MORE STEAM!!!!!

Absolutely! "If at first the game - or the breaks - go against you, don't let up... put on more steam."

Hell to the yeah!

And "Carry the fight to our opponent and keep it there for 60 minutes."

 

[Orange.]

If anything is gonna put a stop to it, it’s your endless posts about it.

PUT ON MORE STEAM!!!!!

Ignoring it and playing along to get along has never worked. Bama and Birmingham count on the issue dying down after a few days.

And I must say explicitly that the reason it is a vital issue to begin with is because Birmingham's rigging corruptly falsifies the first maxim.

 

[Orange.]

I believe Tennessee will win by two touchdowns at least.

I do too, if we aren't jobbed. LFG!

 

[Govolsman98]

Birmingham is testing us. They want to see if we can still win while getting shafted by the officials every game. So far we've done a good job. We're proving our worth. Next season will be different

 

[Orange.]

Birmingham is testing us. They want to see if we can still win while getting shafted by the officials every game. So far we've done a good job. We're proving our worth. Next season will be different

From your lips to the ear of the god.

 

[Orange.]

I love the idea of our team peaking in November!* This is going to be a great month of Vols football.

Ball, oskie, cover, block, cut and slice, pursue and gang tackle... for this is the WINNING EDGE.


* And then again in the post season, of course.

 

[Jackcrevol]

We are not the team, Jack. We are free to point out the obvious rigging that the Birmingham office is up to. But since you mention it, can you imagine how difficult it is to have something like this happen to you as a player and for your team (on Bama's first TD of the second half) and know the deck is being stacked against you, and have to maintain you composure and confidence and tune it out? Over and over and over again.
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Just leave the subject alone, bruh.

the folks complaining about the officiating want me to leave the subject alone.

I think we all agree the officiating sucks. My opinion that our TEAM, and further our fans should focus on beating Missouri in lieu of what really is a distraction. Cannot be that unpopular.

I swear, what would you have the team do? Just quit? Give up? Why even play?
'Shut it down, shut it all down'

 

[Glitch]

We are not the team, Jack. We are free to point out the obvious rigging that the Birmingham office is up to. But since you mention it, can you imagine how difficult it is to have something like this happen to you as a player and for your team (on Bama's first TD of the second half) and know the deck is being stacked against you, and have to maintain you composure and confidence and tune it out? Over and over and over again. Our guys are heroes with incredible will and determination!
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Just leave the subject alone, bruh.

Ref was like....

 

[Jackcrevol]

It's not "rhetoric." It is people stating facts of the matter very often with photographic or video evidence. The evidence in particular seems to really set a few people off.

And it is clearly incorrect and backwards for you to claim that "it is slanted to Bama* ... because they are winning." No, they are winning because it is slanted. That's the point in slanting it. Our game against Bama is abundant proof. But you would have to look at the plays and the calls and no-calls with more attention to detail than your posts display. No post-snap penalties against Bama despite their OL holding the entire second half with no calls, which went a long way to rigging the outcome, is only one case in point, but a major one. I'll not recapitulate all the calls and no-calls -- there are too many -- and if you cared, you would have already seen the documentation of many of them in this thread.

Now when you say

that is accurate. But it is preferential both because it is one-sided and it changes outcomes. If not for the latter, it would be a mild annoyance compared to a real crisis in SEC football.

But then you do a third 180° and blame us for the rigging the Birmingham performs for
Bama as a long standing tradition that is only getting worse:

Bama is not playing perfectly sound football, either. The calls and no-calls do decisive work for them.

Did you see the dirty hit on LSU's Daniels this week by Bama with no call or ejection? Are you familiar with the fact that Turner has done the same thing several times to change the projectory of games? Do you recall that they (and GA) did the same cheap shot cheating with impunity against Hendo in '21 with no calls?

@MarcoVol makes a living, so to speak, devoting all his posts and energy to criticizing Vols fan posters (sometimes fairly, sometimes not) but with no energy left over to criticize any other program or their takes or the clear pattern of officiating we have suffered. Since you obviously don't understand the slide he made from a literal construal of "cellar" to the erroneous conclusion that @Ulysees E. McGill is"playing the victim" by pointing out the persistent and biased officiating against us this year and not expecting any abatement, you should prolly not jump in.

* I'll leave UGA out of it because I haven't watched them this year.

Officiating is slanted to teams that are winning at present. Esp at home, at a place like Alabama.

Tennessee can only control what it can control.

Tennessee has no control over officiating.

It can control how clean of a game it plays, as well as how physical & tenacious it wants to be.

It can also control its mindset going into a game. Either let your circumstances dictate the outcome, or, be the cause of that outcome.

There is no conspiracy to overthrow the Vols. Even if there were, we fans. Our team. Cannot change that. If there is found a ledger, document, or a smoking gun that can prove beyond any doubt that the SEC is engaging in fixing games., then the University of Tennessee can then either sue the conference, and move elsewhere. Both, or continue on.

 

[Orange.]

Officiating is slanted to teams that are winning at present. Esp at home, at a place like Alabama.

Tennessee can only control what it can control.

Tennessee has no control over officiating.

It can control how clean of a game it plays, as well as how physical & tenacious it wants to be.

It can also control its mindset going into a game. Either let your circumstances dictate the outcome, or, be the cause of that outcome.

There is no conspiracy to overthrow the Vols. Even if there were, we fans. Our team. Cannot change that. If there is found a ledger, document, or a smoking gun that can prove beyond any doubt that the SEC is engaging in fixing games., then the University of Tennessee can then either sue the conference, and move elsewhere. Both, or continue on.

Why do you speak of "conspiracy"? I think I can guess. It's a straw-man argument. A thousand times it has been stated that indisputable knowledge of the precise "backstory" is not required to interpret the facts and the overwhelming pattern of the facts. The evidence is abundant. The pattern is there.

We had the same record as Bama going into that game. We beat our common opponent (TAMU) more decisively. In Bama's game with TAMU the Bama started it's way of its OL holding every down. And the same thing happened: After many sacks and pressure in the first half, TAMU was not able to beat the holding for a single sack. Anyway, one thing we can exclude is that we were cheated because Bama had more wins than us. As a result of the rigging, they do now.

We all know our team has to tune it out, be tenacious, and play better than the opponent and whatever the officials tack on to compensate. That's not news.