Recruiting the SEC to Orange

#32
#32
The illustrations prove something that some of us have known for awhile. When the other schools in this conference upgraded their coaching staffs they began to lock down the borders of their perspective states. In order to be able to get back into those talent rich states for recruits we will have to pull some upset wins and play sound football.
 
#33
#33
Gman nailed it as we have been losing on the field and subsequently losing recruiting battles to superior coaches. However, tn has NEVER recruited using a 200 mile radius. That is an imaginary figure supplied by tennstud and some others. With our largest recruiting budget in the country this plan was adequate until the rise of adjacent states programs in prominence causing us to lose our ability to cherry pick players. One thing to note, many of the Deep South areas have absolutely phenom players that haven't a prayer of getting into college due to horrendous schools.

Numbers and graphs are great but while I agree with some of the data the whole story cannot be told.
 
#37
#37
majorvol said:
I think Butch is going to hit a solid triple this year, if not a home run. I'm hoping for a home run.Anyone know anything about the lb that decommited from penn state.
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I'm predicting that we will finish just outside the top 15. Not bad for CBJ's first recruiting year considering the short time he's had to recruit. Next year will be the real litmus test on CBJ and his recruiting abilities.
 
#38
#38
Depending on the density of prospects in proximity to a given campus, a 200-mile recruiting radius may or may not work effectively enough. Pat Dye used to say that he could do most of his recruiting within an hour's drive of Auburn.

Great data on the defensive tackles. Just goes to show why Tennessee has all too often been forced to manufacture serviceable DTs out of players who don't have the natural tools to excel at that position. There may not be anything magical about a 200-mile radius per se, but proximity to home is almost as important for an 18-year old prospect as it is to the average high school student making a decision regarding where to attend college.
 
#40
#40
I agree completely on the value of emphasizing the recruitment of athletes in close proximity to the home base. I was simply pointing out that "recruit density" will, to some extent, dictate how wide you are forced to cast that net. Good ole' Mapquest indicates that Norman, Oklahoma is ca. 190 miles from Dallas, so I imagine that Bud Wilkinson was successfully mining the "gold fields" of Texas high schools back in his heyday. We, on the other hand, have had positively horrible luck with retention of the Texas recruits that we signed over the years. For all practical purposes, we might as well cross the Lone Star State off our recruiting map.

I would shudder to think how wide the University of Wyoming has to cast its net and, yet, they still manage to field a football program. If memory serves me correctly, that state, which is 50th in population, produces, on average, one Division-1A football player per year. Conversely, coaches at Miami could probably field a reasonably competitive team if they stayed within their own county. I know that is a bit of an exaggeration but it is illustrative of my point.
 
#43
#43
Not that anyone will really be interested in their program but, just to illustrate a point about recruit density influencing how widely a coaching staff must cast its recruiting net, here are some interesting figures concerning the geographical breadth represented by the current roster of the University of Wyoming's football team (see http://www.gowyo.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/wyo-m-footbl-mtt.html):

homegrown Wyoming residents: 9
California: 13 (not terribly surprising, considering California's population and the number of Division 1-A prospects therein)
Colorado: 20 (not surprising, considering that Colorado is the most populous state that borders Wyoming)
Texas: 10
Washington: 9
Illinois:5
Missouri:4
Montana:1
New Hampshire: 1
South Carolina: 1
Florida: 1

American Samoa: 1
Hawaii:1

And, now, for their international contingent:
Alberta: 1
British Columbia:1
Australia: 1
Germany: 5

This does not account for everyone on their roster but includes both the most common recruiting grounds for Wyoming, based on this data, and the recruits who have come the farthest to participate in their program.

The bottom most line is that Wyoming's team consists of, barely, 10% Wyoming residents. The number of international players and players from outside the contiguous United States actually exceeds the number of homegrown players on the 2012 roster. It would be interesting to compare their recruiting budget, as a percentage of athletics dept. operational costs, with ours.
 
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#48
#48
Great analysis. D tackle is the hardest position to obtain quality depth at for UT. Look at our dominant teams,and u will see Henderson,Haynesworth, Ellis,Veal,etc....We were loaded on the D-line. Until we can successfully acquire D-line talent,I fear we will remain mediocre. And I am a sunshine pumper.
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