Recruiting

[hatvol96]

I agree we should focus more on the south, but you can't just ignore the west coast. USC has won non-stop the past 4 years because of the players from cali. You pull one or two of them and who knows.....

that being said, UT recruits miami and south florida very well.

Other than Demetrius Morley, who have they pulled out of South FLA?

 

[VolunteerHillbilly]

that being said, UT recruits miami and south florida very well.

I wish we recruited it well enough to get Noel Devine

 

[vols2345]

why would you want noel devine? he wont even play next year, he doesn't have the grades at all.. Virtually 0 chance to make it.

 

[vols2345]

Other than Demetrius Morley, who have they pulled out of South FLA?

guess I better bust out the long book of florida players we have had come through UT.

 

[VolunteerHillbilly]

why would you want noel devine? he wont even play next year, he doesn't have the grades at all.. Virtually 0 chance to make it.

Oh. I did not know that.

 

[hatvol96]

guess I better bust out the long book of florida players we have had come through UT.

Your post said Miami and South Florida. Please bust out this long list of guys from Palm Beach, Broward, and Dade counties.

 

[vols2345]

im going with orlando down, not including orlando.

 

[hatvol96]

im going with orlando down, not including orlando.

You'll pick up a few more that way, but with the exception of the last two classes, we haven't pulled much of anything out of what folks down here consider South Florida. Morley and Vlad Richard are the first guys we've gotten out of that area in some time.

 

[vols2345]

You'll pick up a few more that way, but with the exception of the last two classes, we haven't pulled much of anything out of what folks down here consider South Florida. Morley and Vlad Richard are the first guys we've gotten out of that area in some time.

yeah I know, I think that is what I was refering to. I was talking about recent recruiting since we were talking about it with cali. It kinda makes up for the lack of production coming out of the west coast in our recruiting classes when you can go down to miami and pick up a few players.

 

[hatvol96]

yeah I know, I think that is what I was refering to. I was talking about recent recruiting since we were talking about it with cali. It kinda makes up for the lack of production coming out of the west coast in our recruiting classes when you can go down to miami and pick up a few players.

Tough to count on getting recruits out of the 954/305 area codes on a consistent basis. You've got three top 10 programs between you and the players, and that's just in the state of Florida.

 

[VolunteerHillbilly]

guess I better bust out the long book of florida players we have had come through UT.

I see Chris Hannon in 2002 from Sarasota (probably more central Fl but I'll give it to ya&#39.
We got Brent Schaffer from Deerfield Beach in '04.
In '05, we got Demetrice Morley from Miami, Vladimir Richard from Sunrise, and Gerald Williams from Lauderdale Lakes.
Last year we picked up Quintin Hancock from St. Augustine (definitely not S.Fla.), Daniel Lincoln from Ocala (again I just can't squeeze that into S.Fla.).

So that's 5 south Fl guys in four years. It looks like 2005 was the banner year for us down there.

 

[hatvol96]

I see Chris Hannon in 2002 from Sarasota (probably more central Fl but I'll give it to ya&#39.
We got Brent Schaffer from Deerfield Beach in '04.
In '05, we got Demetrice Morley from Miami, Vladimir Richard from Sunrise, and Gerald Williams from Lauderdale Lakes.
Last year we picked up Quintin Hancock from St. Augustine (definitely not S.Fla.), Daniel Lincoln from Ocala (again I just can't squeeze that into S.Fla.).

So that's 5 south Fl guys in four years. It looks like 2005 was the banner year for us down there.

Sarasota=Not South Florida.

 

[vols2345]

yeah sarasota is deff. not south florida.

 

[VolunteerHillbilly]

I was just trying to help you out. When I go to Fla it's almost always to Naples. I guess I think of that side of the state when I am trying to differentiate between N&S.

 

[vols2345]

yeah i know, you did a good job at it though.

 

[WA_Vol]

I think whats has started hurting recruiting. is players dont believe they have a good opportunity to play for an NC at UT.

That is why it is so important to win conference championships and play in BCS games. Something Fulmer hasn't done since 98.

Your gonna have a much harder time recruiting the elite players otherwise. You end up recruiting players for other reasons, mainly opportunites to play early.

 

[vols2345]

I think whats has started hurting recruiting. is players dont believe they have a good opportunity to play for an NC at UT.

That is why it is so important to win conference championships and play in BCS games. Something Fulmer hasn't done since 98.

Your gonna have a much harder time recruiting the elite players otherwise. You end up recruiting players for other reasons, mainly opportunites to play early.

I think your wrong. when was the last time florida did either of those?? they still get good recruits.. I don't think thats the problem.

 

[jakez4ut]

I think your wrong. when was the last time florida did either of those?? they still get good recruits.. I don't think thats the problem.

yep...we've played in two SEC title games since UF's last appearance, and i don't think UF has been to a BCS game in a while eihter...our last one was in the Fiesta Bowl in JAn 2000 actually, our beat down by NEB....i don't know that UF has been in one since then??? didn't they go to an Orange Bowl or something?

what has helped them is the HYPE factor around Meyer, and having a couple of big name qb's, an easy attraction for other skill position players.

a little hype could help us too...not that it needs to come from a coaching change, but a little hype about us turning it around would do wonders in many recurits eyes....

 

[WA_Vol]

I think your wrong. when was the last time florida did either of those?? they still get good recruits.. I don't think thats the problem.

Meyer went undefeated and to a BCS game at Utah in 2004.

 

[Jaytrain5]

Meyer went undefeated and to a BCS game at Utah in 2004. Why did you think he got hired at UF in the first place?

What Meyer did at Utah has little to do with his chances at an SEC or National Championship at Florida. Tommy Bowden went undefeated at Tulane in 98, and I haven't seen Clemson make any dramatic strides in the ACC over the past 8 years.

 

[hatvol96]

yep...we've played in two SEC title games since UF's last appearance, and i don't think UF has been to a BCS game in a while eihter...our last one was in the Fiesta Bowl in JAn 2000 actually, our beat down by NEB....i don't know that UF has been in one since then??? didn't they go to an Orange Bowl or something?

what has helped them is the HYPE factor around Meyer, and having a couple of big name qb's, an easy attraction for other skill position players.

a little hype could help us too...not that it needs to come from a coaching change, but a little hype about us turning it around would do wonders in many recurits eyes....

Florida played in the Sugar Bowl after the 2000 season.

 

[WA_Vol]

What Meyer did at Utah has little to do with his chances at an SEC or National Championship at Florida. Tommy Bowden went undefeated at Tulane in 98, and I haven't seen Clemson make any dramatic strides in the ACC over the past 8 years.

I'm not saying Meyer is going to win an SEC champ. I'm saying that the perception to the players being recruited is, he can compete for an NC at Florida.

He did make it to a BCS game as head coach at Utah. If he doesn't do that he's not hired to be Florida's coach. In my mind, thats one of the main reasons USC and Oklahoma always have top classes, players think they will get an opportunity to play for an NC there. I think Fulmer is having trouble selling that of late.

 

[VolunteerHillbilly]

Everything I am reading lately suggests that if you want to attract the foru and five star kids in mass numbers you have to be seen as an entryway to the NFL. No matter how unrealistic it may be that is what these guys are looking for.

 

[jakez4ut]

Florida played in the Sugar Bowl after the 2000 season.

10-4...thanks...

 

[jakez4ut]

What Meyer did at Utah has little to do with his chances at an SEC or National Championship at Florida. Tommy Bowden went undefeated at Tulane in 98, and I haven't seen Clemson make any dramatic strides in the ACC over the past 8 years.

Agreed...but one difference....Tommy took over at a Clemson program that hadn't sniffed conf. title in some time....a better comparison would have been had he took over at a place like FSU...Clemson has moderately improved, depending on your point of view that is, since his hiring. Meyer is taking a Uf program that has at least been one of the premeir teams in the league for the past 10 years, another reason to believe they have a good shot a NT, regardless of who's the coach...

I'm not saying Meyer is going to win an SEC champ. I'm saying that the perception to the players being recruited is, he can compete for an NC at Florida.

He did make it to a BCS game as head coach at Utah. If he doesn't do that he's not hired to be Florida's coach. In my mind, thats one of the main reasons USC and Oklahoma always have top classes, players think they will get an opportunity to play for an NC there. I think Fulmer is having trouble selling that of late.

that goes back to hype, where as OK and USC have been to NT games and won NT's lately...it's been 10 years since UF did...what Meyer is getting is based on pure hype (surrounding himself that is, it doesn't hurt that he's at a program like UF either, i don't know that he gets the same recurits if he's at some other 2nd tier school)...it may well come to fruition given all the talent he's brining in...but your point is valid just the same.